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Prometheus said:
plus i'm sick of having to flip past all the chevy and ford advertisements...
I've subscribed to MotorTrend since I was 15 years old and can tell you a little about their biases. The Primedia publishing(Motor/Truck Trend owner) is only about dollars and cents! For years true auto enthusiasts have been dissapointed about most of their COTY or TOTY selections and never understood the real reasons behind those "wrong" choices by MT writers.

Ads ads and more ads pay the bills, pay the writers, and keep the magazine in business. Therefore, the writer has no choice but to lead you on all the way through the article thinking the Titan for example is the better truck... only to choose the Ford that pays the bills.

It's a shame, but like Morpheus says: "Welcome to the real world". :smoke:
 
Tonight on TV... There was the usual commercial for GM Silverado. Compared itself to Ford, Dodge, Toyota as their truck having the most standard torque and horse power. They wisely choose their competition because, as we all know, if the Nissan had been included, it wouldn't have been able to make that claim.

Lies, damed lies and then there are Statistics!
 
drags1998 said:
Yes, its built in the good old U.S.A. But your hard earned money STILL ends up supporting a JAP Co. But who cares????????? Its a GREAT TRUCK!!!!!!! :cheers:
Actually would it not be a French company since Renault owns Nissan...
:huh:

Renault buys up Nissan
On March 27, 1999, Louis Schweitzer, CEO of Renault, and Yoshikazu Hanawa, CEO of the Japanese Group Nissan Motor, signed an agreement, in Tokyo, on a global partnership to help regulate Nissan's financial situation and stimulate the growth of both partners. In buying up the Japanese car manufacturer, the French Group Renault not only takes up the most important challenge ever attempted by a French company, it also seals the biggest takeover of a Japanese company by a foreign group.
 
gstlouis said:
I think I read somewhere the Titan was designed in California.
yes, the titan was designed in san diego, ca, the engine was built in smyrna, tenn, and the truck was assembled and built in canton, miss. Ive also read that the chief designer of the titan used to work at ford a few years back...and umm, her designed got turned down, ford said a woman couldnt design a truck. i think her name was Diane...
 
The Titan was designed by american designers out of San Diego and Farmington Hills, MI. The engine is built in Dechard, TN which is about an hour from Smyrna, and its assembled in Canton, MS. 90% of the parts come from suppliers all over the country and the ONLY part that comes from Japan is the transmission. All this under a Company that is majority owned by a French company. Japanese truck is very inaccurate, but still not as offensive as someone calling it an import.
 
Quad T said:
Actually would it not be a French company since Renault owns Nissan...
I don't think Renault "owns" Nissan. I believe it purchased around 35% of the stock, which is the largest block and is enough to give it control of the board and to select a genius, Carlos Ghosn, a Brazilian, to run this multinational company. The stock is publicly traded and may be a part of some mutual fund or retirement plan many of us have. Many Americans own stock in this company. I own a little.

The company has been wildly successful under Ghosn's management. I just tried to attach a chart comparing the performance of Nissan (NSANY) to Ford (F), GM (GM), and Daimer/Chrysler (DCX) over the last five years. Although it is a *.gif file, I can't seem to be able get it to upload.

You can go to AOL's "personal finance" section and make your own chart by typing in the ticker name NSANY, and then the other companies on the comparision line, set the time frame for five years.

Result:

NSANY 140% gain

DCX 40% loss

F 60% loss

GM 70% loss

Thus, stock bought in any of the big three is now worth about half what it was five years ago, while Nissan stock bought on the same day is up 140%.

So, it's probably not realistic to call it a Japanese company, but it's not French either. It's multinational. Which stock would you want to own?
 
Titan4x4Aggie said:

"Japanese", "French", "Foreign". Call NISSAN what you will. I'll just call it like it is: BETTER!

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Interesting charts, wonder what Toyota Motors looks like... you can sure see the effect on all 4 manufacturers following September 11th!
 
i remember reading somewhere that toyota "liquidated street" value is more than the big 3 combined
 
Quad T said:
Actually would it not be a French company since Renault owns Nissan...
:huh:

Renault buys up Nissan
On March 27, 1999, Louis Schweitzer, CEO of Renault, and Yoshikazu Hanawa, CEO of the Japanese Group Nissan Motor, signed an agreement, in Tokyo, on a global partnership to help regulate Nissan's financial situation and stimulate the growth of both partners. In buying up the Japanese car manufacturer, the French Group Renault not only takes up the most important challenge ever attempted by a French company, it also seals the biggest takeover of a Japanese company by a foreign group.
Aww damn he said the "F" word....
 
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