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rizzo · Apr 29, 2005

I just assumed the payload capacity of the Titan would be the same as the other half tons. 1100 lbs!!! Come on!!! As much as I like my Titan, I probably wouldn't have purchased it if I had known. With the exception of a couple half tons, I've always driven 3/4 tons and I should have bought another one.

Anyway, my (soon to be) wife and I are heading to Alaska in July for a few weeks. We'll be towing our 24' Terry TT with a dry weight of #5500 and a couple motocross' in the bed with a combined weight of about #550. With my fat *** and my wife's skinny ***, we should definitely be pushing the limits.

B.C. DOT is brutal!!! Be very careful when pulling a trailer when visiting that province. I've heard horror stories.

A good brake controller and a weight distributing system is manadtory when pulling.

Canada0937 · Apr 29, 2005

I've never heard of payload on top of the tank of gas. Everyone has told me that the gas has to be included in the payload capacity. If that's the case, then I've got a couple more hundred pounds to play with.

**Edit**

I just found this on the BC site.

The easiest way to figure out how much weight your vehicle is designed to carry is to subtract the net weight of the vehicle (found in your owner's manual) from the GVWR (found on the driver's door post). The remaining number is the maximum weight your vehicle can safely carry. (it includes passengers, fuel and cargo.) Aftermarket access or equipment will increase the net weight of the vehicle. The weight of these accessories or equipment must be added to the net weight listed in your owner's manual. If you want to check the net weight of your vehicle, you can take your unloaded vehicle to ICBC Weigh Scale to be weighed.

tccart · Apr 29, 2005

The published "payload" for a vehicle is the GVWR minus the weight of the unloaded vehicle (base curb weight) which includes a full tank of gas.

From the same website:
Payload
Is the combined, maximum allowable weight of cargo, and passengers that the truck is designed to carry. To calculate the payload of a vehicle, take the Gross Vehicle Weight Rating and subtract the Curb Weight.
Base Curb Weight
Is the weight of the vehicle including a full tank of fuel and all standard equipment. It does not include passengers, cargo or any optional equipment

Ultimately, the best way to figure out your actual remaining payload capacity is to get the truck weighed, and subtract that number from the GVWR on the driver's door sticker. I did it with me in my Chev 1/2 ton Z71, and was left with about 950#. I weigh about 2 hundy, so the payload for my new CC LE will be about the same as my Chev.

I think Rizzo has the King Cab, which has a higher payload than the Crew. Could be as high as 1600#, depending on which options are installed.

rizzo · Apr 30, 2005

I have a 4wd King Cab but my combined weight of passengers and cargo sticker on the door says #1104.

tccart · Apr 30, 2005

The '04 brochure I have shows a payload of 1429# for SE KC 4x4, 1348# for the same SE KC 4x4 with Versatility package ( utili-track, bedliner, ,etc,etc) or 1233# for the KC LE 4x4.

I hope my truck doesn't show up with a lower payload rating on the door sticker than what's published in the brochure or the website.

Canada0937 · Apr 30, 2005

Don't forget the brochure numbers are without options. The sticker on your truck should have the numbers with options. Hate to tell you this, but mine says 1104 lbs as well.

tccart · May 1, 2005

I figured that the payload published for the different trim levels XE,SE,LE includes all the base equipment for that trim level. The LE CC payload is 106# less than the SE CC because of the standard running boards, etc. on the LE. If I ordered the optional DVD and NAV systems, I would expect a bit less payload than the 1162# published for the LE.

It's kinda strange that your CC has the exact payload as Rizzo's KC.

Oh well, there's nothing I can do about the payload rating and no sense getting my gonch in a knot. I'll just be careful with the hitch weight of the next TT I buy. Why complain that the 1/2 ton truck I bought is only capable of a 1/2 ton payload? :lol:

Canada0937 · May 1, 2005

You're right. It's just the shock of it all. This is what I came up with. 362# hitch weight 27' long

tccart · May 1, 2005

If that unit has a queen bed in front, and bunks for the kids in the back, I just might go have a peek at one.

Canada0937 · May 1, 2005

Just as you described it. Here's the floorplan and more pics.
My wife liked the white interior, but you can get the dark interior as well. I got it at TrailBlazerrv from Roxanne. She was great! If you see her, let her know Joel from Fort Mac recommended her, I get a $75.00 coupon for referrals! :brownsmil :brownsmil :brownsmil :hahano: :hahano: . It's the second unit we've purchased from her.

rizzo · May 3, 2005

Rockwood are supposed to be good trailers I think. I've heard good and bad things about Terry (what we have), but besides the normal minor plumbing problems, we've had great luck with it. I think our next one will be a Westwind though. I've always been partial to locally made stuff (Red Deer) and I like their basic layouts. I betcha we keep our Terry for years to come though. It's like our second home!!!

Brons2 · May 3, 2005

Canada0937 said:
You're right. It's just the shock of it all. This is what I came up with. 362# hitch weight 27' long

THAT tt has a 362 hitch weight? WOW! I think I want one for football tailgating!! Can it be equipped with A/C? I live in Texas, mind you. lol.

tccart · May 3, 2005

The Rockwood TT is made in the U.S. Illinois, I think. Check out www.forestriverinc.com

Brons2 · May 3, 2005

tccart said:
The Rockwood TT is made in the U.S. Illinois, I think. Check out www.forestriverinc.com

Yeah I saw all the info last night. Seems like they also have other labels like Flagstaff which look to be otherwise constructed the same.

There weren't any prices posted on the website though, obviously they want you to go to the dealer. Now, I do know that many of the class A motorhomes built on the Ford and or Workhorse chassis can cost upwards of 150K, and the tour bus based Class A Diesel Pushers can run into the many hundreds of thousands, but I assume that a ultralight travel trailer can't cost anywhere near that much!

Also, what is the standing heigth inside such an ultralight? I am 6'7" and would not want to be ducking all the time.

Canada0937 · May 4, 2005

I've been told the Rockwood and Flagstaff models are actually of the same assembly line. They just place different decals on them. If you take a look at the Rockwood 2601 and the Flagstaff 26BHSS, they are identical floorplans and specifications. My Rockwood has A/C.

As far as the prices go I paid $26,900 CAD. The conversion on XE.com says $21500 USD.

I don't know how high the interior height is, I'll measure and let you know.

keane · May 4, 2005

Canada0937 said:
I've been told the Rockwood and Flagstaff models are actually of the same assembly line. They just place different decals on them. If you take a look at the Rockwood 2601 and the Flagstaff 26BHSS, they are identical floorplans and specifications. My Rockwood has A/C.

As far as the prices go I paid $26,900 CAD. The conversion on XE.com says $21500 USD.

I don't know how high the interior height is, I'll measure and let you know.

I was looking at the Rockwood 2701SS and I found this link to the

2601http://rvwholesalers.com/design/Rockwood_7/Rockwood_7.php?floorplan=2601

It would almost be worth it for me to drive to Illinois and pick it up.

The 2701SS (almost the same but longer and a bigger bunk) is priced at $19753 Canadian with the options I would want.

Not bad.

Canada0937 · May 5, 2005

I looked at the 2701SS and I really, really wanted to purchase it, but I wasn't sure I wanted to tow a 32?' trailer. So I settled on the 2601. I don't think you can go wrong with either of them.

keane · May 5, 2005

It was you that made my wife and I interested in looking at them. We are contemplating building a house on the lake. If we do that, then we won't be buying a new trailer. If not, we are going to go check out the 2701SS.

Canada0937 · May 9, 2005

Roxanne at TrailBlazerRV

Hey, who went to see her on the weekend? I was talking with her and someone mentioned this forum. Pretty cool! If you end up buying anything, try to do it before the long weekend as that's when I'm picking up my trailer. It would be nice to have a referral credit when I get there so I can pick up a sewer hose etc....

Just kidding! How did you find Roxanne? Did you find a trailer?

keane · May 10, 2005

not me - building the house.

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