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willis said:
entertaining, but, did the titan have ane e-locker? was the ford a one tire fire? there are lots of questions to be asked. don't get me wrong, i love my titan, I;m just waiting for the diffs to explode. lol :informati
The Ford was smoking both rear wheels. And it looked like the Titan was a 4X2 so......looked even to me. I want to see that done with the new F-150.
 
I find it hard to believe that the Titan was a 4x2. It looks like the ford had a posi rear end as both it's tires were smoking. The Titan only has the ABLS (only 1 wheel can spin at a time) which isn't as good as a true posi.
 
moore101 said:
I find it hard to believe that the Titan was a 4x2. It looks like the ford had a posi rear end as both it's tires were smoking. The Titan only has the ABLS (only 1 wheel can spin at a time) which isn't as good as a true posi.
No Ford has "POSI". That's a GM name for one of their LSD rear ends. I didn't see any 4X4 emblem on the rear quarter of the Titan and I didn't see any front wheels spin on the Ford. I doubt it would be worth posting a video if one was a 4X2 and the other was a 4X4 using 4WD.
BTW, I can easily smoke both rear tires....eventually one will overpower the other but in that short distance, it'd do it. I still say the Ford was a 4X2 with an LSD rear and the Titan was also a 4X2. Anyone know for sure?
 
HudsonValleyTitan said:
I still say the Ford was a 4X2 with an LSD rear and the Titan was also a 4X2. Anyone know for sure?
Im 100% positive its a 4x2. My dad had one just like it..........the 4x4 sits higher,and even with the cheaper 4x4 models that have smaller "off-road" tires, they'll have more fender well space.

Those trucks are pretty weak, especially the 4.6L that will barely pull itself.
 
I'd want to know what engine was in the Ford before I got too proud about the outcome.
 
Armada said:
I'd want to know what engine was in the Ford before I got too proud about the outcome.
Engine output wouldn't matter. It's a battle of weight and traction, not power. That's why I'm not overly impressed with tug-o-war stories. They prove nothing IMO. Both can still tow a trailer, go great off-road, and both can still blow rear ends or have sh!tty brakes.
 
buzzkillwill said:
And I think it means a little more than better tires.
If I had brand new tires on my Titan, and hooked-up to an F-350 with old bald tires, who do you think would win?
Umm, Not that I am an expert, but on certain types of road and down low, perhaps asphalt, wouldn't more tire surface area = greater grip, i.e. flat bald tires would probably outgrip the same tires with tread. After all dragsters use the smooth tires.
 
HudsonValleyTitan said:
Engine output wouldn't matter. It's a battle of weight and traction, not power.
I think torque is important and engine output is a reflection of torque at rpm. That's why high torque diesels tend to do very well in these type of events provided they can get traction.

I love my Armada, but have no doubt that my F-250 7.3L diesel could pull it around like a rag doll. I drive both truck daily. I pull an 8,000 lb. trailer with both. As fine as my Armada is in pulling that trailer, the diesel gets underway with more authority.

If the tug of war placed a V6 or the puny 4.6 against the Titan, I would not call that a fair contest. If it was the 5.4, then that would be a fair matchup, especially if it was the newer 3 valve design. A win with that ease against the newer 5.4 would mean something.
 
Armada said:
I think torque is important and engine output is a reflection of torque at rpm. That's why high torque diesels tend to do very well in these type of events provided they can get traction.

I love my Armada, but have no doubt that my F-250 7.3L diesel could pull it around like a rag doll. I drive both truck daily. I pull an 8,000 lb. trailer with both. As fine as my Armada is in pulling that trailer, the diesel gets underway with more authority.

If the tug of war placed a V6 or the puny 4.6 against the Titan, I would not call that a fair contest. If it was the 5.4, then that would be a fair matchup, especially if it was the newer 3 valve design. A win with that ease against the newer 5.4 would mean something.
It (power) would account for something only if traction and weight were identical in both vehicles. If you have a puny V6 weighing 5500 LBS vs a powerhouse V8 weighing 4900 LBS, the V6 would drag it. But I don't think it's just a cut and dry thing. A torquy diesel still would have to match its opponants traction to win a oull-off. But I do believe, with everything equal, the torque of a diesel would win.
 
505 pounds of torque stock in the 7.3L at less than 1500 rpm. Thats totally stock. No chip, no exhaust or intake. Just ease off idle and tip into the throttle gradually. But you are right that all else equal, the heavier truck has the advantage.
 
pi3yeargrad said:
so what if u got a ford with the same weight and tires and a titan with the same weight and tires...then u could measure who was stronger no?
Yes then the edge would go to the person with the most power,us.
 
I posted this on the other thread. My brother has a 02 tacoma 4X4 cc, and we hooked up my 4X4 OR CC both in 4LO on dirt, and neither one of us moved on inch. We both dug 4 big holes but didn't move. On dirt I couldn't even move him with him just holding his brakes. I wouldn't try this on cement, because something will probably break.
 
helomech said:
I posted this on the other thread. My brother has a 02 tacoma 4X4 cc, and we hooked up my 4X4 OR CC both in 4LO on dirt, and neither one of us moved on inch. We both dug 4 big holes but didn't move. On dirt I couldn't even move him with him just holding his brakes. I wouldn't try this on cement, because something will probably break.

On dirt, your heavier truck would have dragged. If you both had crappy traction, that'd account for no movement. You can't drag hime if you're spinning your wheels in dirt.
 
HudsonValleyTitan said:
On dirt, your heavier truck would have dragged. If you both had crappy traction, that'd account for no movement. You can't drag hime if you're spinning your wheels in dirt.
Exactly even though my truck was heavier and had more power I could not move him. That is the point I've been trying to make. It all boils down to traction.
 
This should be done pulling a sled full of weights rather than tug-o-war. It seems mildly retarted. Somebody is going to end up ripping the rear end off of a perfectly good truck.
 
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