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Well Im going to make this the short and condensed version..
I bought my Titan in may of 2005 with 245 miles on her, nuthin major didnt really think much of it really, the salesman assured me it was miles from the dealership using it to run errands, test drives and things of that sort.. Well being that it's a year later my plates expired this month and now I need to pay the 53.00 for renewing my registration.. I called the DMV and they said a County which I've never lived in has a property tax stop on my plate id.. So I have to pay my property taxes on the vehicle, I call them and they ask what my plate is to look up the info and they tell me it's because i never paid the property tax for my 2005 titan, I said i never got a bill for any property tax, I'm from texas we don't have car tax yearly on vehicles.. Then she asked if i was named Christian I said no my name is christopher and I've never lived in your county.. Well then she explained to me you bought a used vehicle then cause this other guy owned my vehicle first even if it was for a week or so..
So what kinda lawsuit could I file against the dealership for the obvious fraud they have commited by selling me a used car at a new car price ??
 
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I'm not sure 245 miles would be considered a used car regardless of whether or not it was titled. Since it hadn't aged or had many miles put on it, it hadn't depreciated and there would have been no book available to tell what it was worth "used". There is still not data on 2006 Titans used. In TX you have 3 days to back out of any contract using the buyers remourse law, you have people that don't get financed, etc. Take all that into consideration and there would be a lot of "new" vehicles on dealer's used car lots. You may have something on them because they have the obligation to disclose things like this. It just depends on how far you want to take it. I think your really going to be hard pressed to find a judge that would consider you suffered or will suffer in any way because of this and there would be no way to prove what the car would have been worth if it was sold as used as opposed to new. With only 245 miles that difference would be minimal and surely wouldn't cover legal fees. Regardless the dealership needs to help you straighten out this tax deal.
 
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That's really interesting. If here in California someone buys a vehicle, signs the papers and takes it home, he's the owner. Now he does have 24 hours to bring it back usually. If he goes past that time, he's the owner no matter how many miles low or high he/she puts on it. If he brings it back past the 24 hours, it's a used vehicle. Here in San Diego we have this big golf tournament at Torrey Pines...used to be called The Buick Invitational Golf Tournament at Torrey Pines. They would let the players drive the Buick's around for a week or so then turn them back in to the dealership. They in turn sold them as used cars some of them with only 100 miles on them.

I'm not a lawyer and no I didn't sleep in a Holiday Inn either but used is used no matter how many miles are put on them. I do agree with ttugrad95, call the dealership and ask them what's up and see what they say first before spending money on a lawyer.

DJ
 
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I already did call the dealership gave them 2 full business days to do something with the tax ordeal and called them back today and the sales manager just flat out told me " Look I don't have the time to deal with this" and hung up on me. so I figure I gave them ample oppurtunity to fix the situation. I'm personally looking forward to fixing his attitude on the way people should be treated even years after buying thier vehicle.. all they care about is thier damn commision and not anything about customers after they are pushed thru the buying process..
Also I could give a rat's *** about the mileage on my vehicle before I bought it, it's the fact that they lied to me about why those miles are there that has me soo pissed and the fact they could care less about straighting out the property tax issue.. all it would take from them is a simple 5 minute phone call but they won't even do that.
 
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Get ahold of the owner and let him know about the situation. See how he reacts to the actual situation, and if not satisfactory, see how he feels about litigation against his dealership. As far as I have always been told, once a vehicle is titled, it is considered to be used and must be sold accordingly.
 
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If a vehicle has been titled before, it's a used vehicle regardless of mileage. But I'd get all the info needed and bring it down to the dealer to straighten things out face to face. None of those over the phone crap. Then I'd call Nissan headquarters. If all else fails, sue the dealership for whatever tax and fees are owed. Good luck.
 
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You'll end up suing that particular dealership for sure. I would try to find out who owns the dealership and get in touch with them. Then he'll put the GM of the dealership to work on fixing the problem.
 
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Don't deal with middle management, start at the top. Find out if its a corporation and call the head office. Call Nissan HQ. If your dead set on sueing don't worry about calling anyone, hire yourself a lawyer and let them deal with it. But be prepared, because that could cost you more in the longrun. We all understand you are pissed but you asked for advice and we are giving it to you. If you go off half ****ed and start making threats everyone is going to stonewall you. Be smart about it and you'll get better results.
 
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Nothing like a good sh#t house lawyer thread!
 
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I'm not sure what your asking... you certainly shouldn't have to pay this property tax from another state... as for the getting the vehicle with 245 miles on it.... Well, you knew that. What is really the difference if it was owned by someone or if the lot punks drove it around??

I know it kind of sucks but you will have to prove you were damaged in some way. I don't see how you were.... You can go after the dealership but in all facets of law, proving what someone knew is a tough case to make... not impossible but certianly difficult.
 
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You should go talk to a Lawyer. Some Lawyers will tell you if you have a case or not, without charging you. You could write down on paper, the facts and leave it with the lawyer's secratary and ask them to call you and tell you if you have a case. If they do want money, it's usually $50 for a consultation.
Also, you can file a complaint with The DMV. I had to when I bought a new Utility Trailer. The trailer co. did not register the new trailer with the DMV, so after waiting 3 months for the license plate, I went to the DMV office. They told me that they were going to find out why the trailer was not registered,and put in my name, and license mailed to me. They told me that the dealer would likely be fined and if this was not the first complaint, the dealer could lose it's Dealer's License.
 
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Whatever path you choose to deal with this matter definately include a call to Nissan consumer affairs. They need to be aware of their dealers that are doing criminal business like that. I'm sure you are not the only one they have screwed. Good Luck!
 
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How can another state put a hold on you texas tags for property taxes? Sounds like a bunch of BS. If you already paid your texas taxes you shouldnt have to worry. I would go to your local DMV and find out whats realy going on and bring all your paperwork with you.
 
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Felony fraud is based upon a value of the object sold. Be advised, no delearship and certainly no individual would want to be on the wrong end of the law. A civil case you may have; however, a criminal case you definitely have. I advise you to contact the district attorney or the state attorney from the area that you purchased the car (where ever the dealearship is located). Keep in mind a criminal case is not likely to render damages; however, you can file a civil case at any time. If you are low on funds, check with Legal Aid Offices in the area of the offense.

Good luck and keep us updated, we all have a concern in this.
 
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Another state didn't put property taxes on my vehicle.. im currently living in north carolina and bought my truck here.. Being that I was born and lived in Texas most of my life I had no idea some states / countys had property taxes on cars how fookin stupid can you be?? North carolina is by far the most corrupt and money hungry state ive ever lived in they even tax you if you have cat's / dogs. I plan to contact nissan corporate soon as I talk to the lawyer I don't want to give this dealership any more chances to sort this out after I gave them ample time to rectify the situation all I wanted was for them to call the Robeson county tax office and get the previous owner off of the damn tax record and add mine so i could register my truck, but since the sales manager is TOO BUSY to help me maybe he'll have plenty of time to do it after his *** gets thrown in jail and fired :p
 
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this is probably something that the dealer could resolve in a day or at least get the ball rolling for you. I know your pissed at the sales manager, so go above him and explain the situation, someone there should care, the dealer is clearly at fault, get them to go back and look at their paper trail, somewhere in the registration process they f'd up. In my mind, your quickest route to getting your registration is thru them, not a lawyer. I think an honest lawyer will tell you the same.
 
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