[bbshot]

Seems most automakers redesign a vehicle every 5 years. '09 is the 5th year of the Titan in it's current configuration (not counting the relatively minor changes of the '08).

I was wondering if anyone had any insight to the future Titan? Any Nissan workers hearing rumors?

 

[Titanic9]

From what I have read, Ford F150 will be redesigned for model year 2009. Nissan Titan will be redesigned for model year 2010.

I am not aware of any mandate that anything needs to be redesigned every 5 years. How long did they make the Taurus, Cavalier, Maxima, etc. in basically the same format...

 

[BuckyBadger]

From what I have read, Ford F150 will be redesigned for model year 2009. Nissan Titan will be redesigned for model year 2010.

I am not aware of any mandate that anything needs to be redesigned every 5 years. How long did they make the Taurus, Cavalier, Maxima, etc. in basically the same format...

He did not say a "mandate" :evillaugh

 

[LS1POWERED]

The time line most truck makers follow from what i have observed.
new model
4 years later refresh (to keep sales going)
5-6 years upgraded powertrain. (probibly diesel or better 5.6 for titan)
7 year would be classic model along with new model.

so if i had to guess i would say 2010-2011 for new model.

 

[albonismo]

i doubt they would do anything drastic to the body. maybe some new interior stuff and a few variations to the exterior style but still maintaining the "Titan" look, just as they have other truck/suv models.

 

[Titanic9]

Yikes - sorry bbshot, I read your post wrong. You were just pointing out your observation about a redesign roughly every 5 years - I agree, that is what normally happens (but not in all cases).

Anyway, here is the published info that the F150 is being redesigned in 2009 from http://www.edmunds.com/ford/f150/2009/review.html
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What We Know
The 2009 Ford F-150 will be a fully redesigned pickup designed to take on the latest from Dodge, GM, Nissan and Toyota. Key to the redesign will be a new engine with displacement in the 6.0-6.2-liter range and a six-speed automatic transmission. Expect between 360-390 horsepower and an equivalent level of torque. Body style configurations probably won't change much and various interior themes will be offered much like the current F-150. Judging by the test mules seen so far, the styling will be an evolution of the current model that retains a boxy silhouette. Look for this truck to make its first public appearance early next year with sales beginning later in 2008.

And I am having trouble finding it but here is the best I was able to dig up on the Titan redesign scheduled for 2010 from http://www.intellichoice.com/reports/vehicleReport/vehicle_nmb/19580/2007/Nissan/Titan
The Nissan Titan was introduced in 2004 and a redesign is expected in 2010.

This page also shows the scheduled redesign for the Titan in 2010:
http://www.motortrend.com/future/vehicle_forecast/112_vehicle_forecast/three_years_plus.html

 

[billaj]

Wow they are going to put a 6.0-6.2-liter in the new F-150's?

 

[MuskyHunter]

Other recent articles of interest:

http://www.egmcartech.com/2007/08/31/nissan-vehicles-put-out-more-carbon-emissions/

http://news.speeple.com/autoblog.co...ord-navistar-powered-diesel-titan-in-2009.htm

Off the topic but in searching for 2009 Titan redesign, the 400Z caught my eye with the potential of a V8.

http://www.topspeed.com/cars/nissan/nissan-400z-ar15826.html

 

[d0va]

Im not sure who was it but a member here had a real Futuristic Titan or Nissan truck as their avatar. It was completely redesign. I never seen those pictures before beside in the avatar? anyone has any Idea or pictures of that truck?

 

[JERRYMAC]

According to those who work at one of the F-150 production plants the 09' F-150 will look much the same with a differenet front end. The interior will be more posh but the area most improved will be, as stated here, the drive train. HP approaching 400 with a 6-speed transmission. Possibly a diesel option too.

 

[Rugrat]

I think its important for trucks especially to develop a history - of dependability, strength and value. Similiar to the F150 -- they dont change a lot and rely on reputation alone to sell trucks. I think if Nissan jumps in too fast with a redesign it will run into a new set of first year issues that are common with the first run of vehicles. Using the 2004 as a base, improving with each year until they perfect it (improved brakes,etc)...Once perfected they keep that going to build brand.

 

[kman]

According to those who work at one of the F-150 production plants the 09' F-150 will look much the same with a differenet front end. The interior will be more posh but the area most improved will be, as stated here, the drive train. HP approaching 400 with a 6-speed transmission. Possibly a diesel option too.

I heard of a 4.4 v8, 300Hp, 540lb torquer diesel option for the F150 was/might be coming for 2009. Supposedly the motor is based on the Land Rover 3.5 v8 diesel.

 

[Titanic9]

I guess I'd be a little confused as to what Nissan would be trying to accomplish by offering a diesel-powered Titan. I mean, how many of these trucks do they really think they'd sell? I can see Ford and GM doing it with all their fleet and contract sales, but I just don't think Nissan would sell enough diesel Titans to justify the expense of offering it. I dunno, I could be wrong, since I thought the same way about the long bed models.

Awaiting the new F150, sounds like they are headed in the right direction. Some front end redesign too - their black and chrome grills with the horizontal bars look nice, but those honeycomb ones (on the XLT, etc.) look awful.

 

[Sammy Sandbag]

Maybe they'll go the GM route and keep the same design for 15 years....

 

[dodson914]

Maybe they'll go the GM route and keep the same design for 15 years....

That would be a good thing, right? Makes it more difficult to make distinctions from year to year. Should hold the resale value better also.

 

[kman]

If Nissan could be first to market with a lite duty diesel, i don't think they would have to "sell" it. If it was reasonably priced and give 20+ mpg, i think all they would have to do would be take orders, they wouldn't be able to keep any on the lot.

 

[dodson914]

If Nissan could be first to market with a lite duty diesel, i don't think they would have to "sell" it. If it was reasonably priced and give 20+ mpg, i think all they would have to do would be take orders, they wouldn't be able to keep any on the lot.

They are struggling with sales in the light duty market now. Why on Earth would they want to branch out? Also, the EPA has pretty much done away with the 20mpg the diesels used to get. Unless you are going to go with a much smaller diesel. None of the diesels in the Chevy's and Fords are getting 20mpg for the '07+ models. Not sure about Dodge. Heck a lot of the Ford guys are getting 12-14mpg.

 

[kman]

They are struggling with sales in the light duty market now. Why on Earth would they want to branch out? Also, the EPA has pretty much done away with the 20mpg the diesels used to get. Unless you are going to go with a much smaller diesel. None of the diesels in the Chevy's and Fords are getting 20mpg for the '07+ models. Not sure about Dodge. Heck a lot of the Ford guys are getting 12-14mpg.

sales have sufferred no doubt, but part of that is because of the lack of
powertrain options, not to mention the price of fuel relative to mpg's these days.

it would have to be a much smaller diesel, ie: the 4.4L that Ford is talking about using.

 

[DenverTitan]

I will consider another Titan. I just hope they do not go the way of the other manufacturers and decrease off road capability. The Titan's off pavement ability and specs is really what sold me on this truck and not another GMC Sierra. Oh, and the drivetrain is the best I have ever had. I know there is some real potential in this engine.

 

[Titantexan]

My lease is up in '09, so I will be really interested to see what Nissan does with the Titan. I may end up in a Tundra or Sierra if Nissan stays with the refresh course for the '09. Of course I will look at the redesigned Titan again around 2012-2014 if I did go with either of those because I really like Nissan and there innovation.