[oldf150]

Drove to work today and when I went to park the shift lever would not go all the way into Park and the reverse camera stayed on. I fiddled with it and it felt like it went into Park but when I got out of the truck it started to roll forward (it was on a slight grade) and it was making a clicking sound. Fortunately there was no one else in the lot and I was able to get the door open and hop back in. Got it stopped but it would not start. Finally got it back into Park firmly and drove it around the parking lot a few times but each time I stopped I was unable to get it into Park again. Finally I ran through all the gears and it went into Park. That is how it sits now.

I bought this truck used a few months ago. Only 16k miles on it. Looks brand new. It is still under warranty (I think) so I know I need to take it to the dealer but wondering if anyone else has experience this or heard of it. No warning lights on.

As it is I consider this to be extremely dangerous because the level will go into the Park position and stay there but it is still not engaged fully.

 

[KING_Polaris]

Busted brake solenoid in your shifter is my guess.

 

[oldf150]

Busted brake solenoid in your shifter is my guess.

I did some Google searches and that issue comes up primarily with people not being able to get it _out_ of Park. Not sure why that would keep it from going into Park.

I drove it around in the parking lot again a few hours ago. No problems.

One the one hand I'm just hoping it was a fluke and not a recurring issue. On the other hand it is so dangerous I'll still probably take it to the dealer. Really sucks to have this happen on a newish truck. I hate when I have to take a vehicle to a dealer/mechanic when I cannot reproduce the problem. Starting to feel a little regret at my choice. (Was debating Ford vs Nissan....have always been a Nissan guy....maybe not as much now).

 

[oldf150]

As I was trying to figure this out I remember that this truck came with an aftermarket Viper remote start unit. I never use it and the remotes are in a drawer somewhere. Is there any possible way that this Viper thing could cause something like this?

 

[HRTKD]

Maybe a broken parking pawl?

 

[KING_Polaris]

I did some Google searches and that issue comes up primarily with people not being able to get it _out_ of Park. Not sure why that would keep it from going into Park.

I drove it around in the parking lot again a few hours ago. No problems.

One the one hand I'm just hoping it was a fluke and not a recurring issue. On the other hand it is so dangerous I'll still probably take it to the dealer. Really sucks to have this happen on a newish truck. I hate when I have to take a vehicle to a dealer/mechanic when I cannot reproduce the problem. Starting to feel a little regret at my choice. (Was debating Ford vs Nissan....have always been a Nissan guy....maybe not as much now).

Pushing your brake pedal sends voltage to your parking solenoid and allows the shifter to release from park and down in to neutral, drive, etc... and you cannot shift back down into reverse and park until you've pressed down on your brake pedal again, which makes me think your parking solenoid may be faulty...

Definitely get it to the dealership ASAP, this could severely hurt or kill someone....

 

[oldf150]

I don't think it is a broken pawl because since the initial episode it has not done it again. I agree with King_Polaris that it is either something electronic or a linkage issue. Still not sure it is the brake solenoid because it went up from Drive into Reverse with no problem. It just wouldn't fully go into Park. I drove it again today and no problems. I've warned my wife about it because she does drive it sometimes. I'm going to try to duplicate the problem over the weekend.

Now I'm wondering if it is something I did absent-mindedly. All of our other cars are manuals so maybe I did something weird when I was parking. I'm kind of wondering if I released the brake pedal while I was shifting it up from Drive?

 

[mallthus]

Could be something's fallen into the selector linkage. On my console shift 2015, there's a cover plate, but it's flexible and it is possible for stuff to get in there, especially if the PO had kids.

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[oldf150]

So far it hasn't happened again and I cannot duplicate it. I think I mindlessly took my foot off the brake while shifting the level forward. That's the only thing I can figure out.

 

[GalaxyPro4X11]

I definitely wouldn't regret not getting the Ford. We have 6 of the newer f150's an holy **** they are the biggest pieces of sh1t I've ever drove. 4 of them have had the power steering go on them, 1 lit on fire on the way to the airport for some reason, either transfer case or front diff oil was spewing out of the vent tube an she went up in flames. Shifting problems, a few alternators, 1 rear diff, multiple door latches fu(ked among other issues I forget.
I can not believe how piss poor they are, an all under 24000 kilometres.


I've had a 2011 pro4x bought new an put 109000 hard hard kilometres before getting my 2015.
The only issue I had on the first one was some warranty work on my A/C.
So far my 15 has been great also other then 2 blown front axles that were entirely my fault an both fixed under warranty, lifted roughly 8"

 

[oldf150]

Well, here's a new twist. My wife calls me last night and says the truck won't start. Everything electric is working fine but turn the key and nothing. No starter noise at all. She was going to get someone there to jump start it but call me back a few minutes later and said she got in, pressed the brake pedal and ran the shifter through the gear then put it in park and it started just fine. She drove it again today and it wouldn't start again. This time she pressed in the brake, put it in neutral and it started just fine.

I went out and checked it just now and it cranked normally.

All of this has got to have something to do with the shifter electronics.

It will go to the dealership next week. Should be under warranty (2015, 20k miles).

Beginning to see why someone sold this one. Wondering if I need to let it go too.

 

[oldf150]

My wife took it in to the dealership today. They kept it all day and said they could not replicate the problem so they did nothing and had no recommendations.

I'm mad. I should not have sent my wife but I have to work.

The truck is under warranty. Once it has rolled away with no one in it in a parking lot and three times it has failed to start unless I do some weird routine with the shifter.

I made her call the dealership back and demand that they fix it. They said they couldn't just go replacing parts under warranty and that we could bring it back and they would keep it until they could duplicate the problem. No offer on a loaner.

Now I'm really mad.

The way I look at it is that two very specific things have happened involving the shifter. I have given them specific details in regard to the symptoms and the sequence of events. In that regard they should be able to narrow it down and arrive at an educated guess in regard to the problem.

I'm not a litigious person. I've never threatened anyone with legal action. But in my opinion this is unacceptable and it puts me and my family at risk. At the very least of getting stranded somewhere, at the worst of the truck rolling away and killing someone. But if they won't take this bull by the horns and get it fixed I'm going to get some legal help.

Supremely disappointed in this truck. Disappointed in Nissan. More so with the Nissan Stealership. If they can't do something with it soon I'm going to unload it.

Oh, and the radio controls have gone wonky too. They're going to replace the whole radio/nav head unit.

As I've said, I suspect I now know why someone got rid of a like-new 2015 Pro4-X.....probably the same reason I'm going to if things don't get sorted out soon. Its starting to smell like a lemon.

 

[Dieselfuelonly]

What transmission is in it, still a 5speed?

If so it easily could bewhat was posted above or it could be related to the manual valve and the PNP switch which is on the TCM/VB.

This is what tells the transmission if it is in either Park or Neutral allowing the engine to start along with what gear is selected for the TCM and so on.

This is a very crucial step for anyone who drops the valvebody or is even doing a rebuild on the bench as it has to be done in perfect order and is sort of an awkward angle to be able to see when seating the VB.

I will try to upload two photos from the ATSG manual so you can get an idea.

At any rate it isn't something I would be looking into if you are under warranty and it is that new. Hopefully you are able to get them to take care of it for you or put you in a new truck.

 

[Dieselfuelonly]

Photos

 

[oldf150]

Thanks. It is the 5 speed. Same as previous models as far as I know. Is the ATSG manual you refer to part of the factory service manual or is it something different?

It goes back to the dealership today. My wife has to take it again since I am at work. I'm not sure she will be forceful enough with them to get them to just do the work instead of waiting for it to malfunction again.

I have an OBD reader. It is not throwing any codes.

The problem happened again as soon as she got back from the dealership but I cranked it 5 or 6 times yesterday and it worked just fine.

As you say, it has to be a position sensor of some sort because when you turn the key everything else in the truck works the way it is supposed to except no ignition/starter. It seems fairly obvious to me and makes me wonder why they won't pull the unit out and check it. I know it is more complicated than I can understand but them waiting for it to happen again so they can witness it seems pointless.

Anyway, I'm at least going to try to get them to give me a loaner. I need my truck this weekend.

 

[TITANTEC]

The best thing to do is get a loaner car and leave the titan with the dealer until they can duplicate the concern. Nissan does not allow techs to throw parts at a vehicle in hopes its fixes said concern because the customer said something is wrong. The dealer has to duplicate the concern if no recalls or service bulletins are present. If its an issue covered under warranty Nissan should pay for a rental. I would ask the dealer to contact TECH-LINE to see if they have seen any similar issues to help the tech get going in the right direction.

 

[GalaxyPro4X11]

I always record stuff that's hard to duplicate on command. Had to do that with my dealership, they are very good to deal with.

 

[oldf150]

Nissan does not allow techs to throw parts at a vehicle in hopes its fixes said concern because the customer said something is wrong. The dealer has to duplicate the concern if no recalls or service bulletins are present.

I understand that but this is not a vague or hard to describe problem. It is a very specific series of events that we have described to them in detail. And I'm not asking them to just start replacing parts. I'm asking them to use their heads to diagnose the problem and that might involve pulling some things apart. In this case the problem can only be in the shifter or the ignition. Up until now they have done no diagnostic work at all. And, even if they duplicate the problem, which only happens infrequently, how will it change anything? It isn't throwing codes.

But I agree. The thing to do is to get a loaner. That solves my transportation needs AND gives them an incentive to get to work diagnosing the problem.

 

[oldf150]

I always record stuff that's hard to duplicate on command. Had to do that with my dealership, they are very good to deal with.

I did that all day on the fourth and couldn't duplicate the problem.

And, just now my wife texted me that they are replacing the whole shifter mechanism. Not sure why they decided to move on this but I'm glad they are at least doing something.

This dealership has been a mixed bag for me. I've pretty much only driven Nissans since 1984 except for my F150. I have never been able to buy anything from this dealership because I can get better deals at other Nissan places. They also charge way too much for basic repairs so I get those done at an independent shop for a lot less. However, this dealership has generally done me right on factory/warranty issues. They replaced the entire ECU in my 350z for free. There was a TSB but no recall so I was pleased with that.

 

[Dieselfuelonly]

Hoping after your truck leaves the dealership you no longer have to deal with this problem.

The problem could definitely could be the switch that allows the shifter to move and set into the P position, could be something with the shifter cable (maybe ask them to inspect that) as I have seen plenty of vehicles come through w/ rusty shift cables usually on the transmission end. The shift cable and the way it is routed on my '05 I had a hard time getting it back on during my RI it was probably the most fickle one I've had to deal with, in my minor experience R&Ring them out of the vehicle.

I can not imagine how I would be feeling or how upset/irritating it would be to have to deal with that on a practically brand new tk is having this issue and that it is hard to duplicate and such it would be quite frustrating. Toss this thought around maybe if this round doesn't fix the problem for humor (probably not) ask one of their techs to take your truck and (get on the line with Nissan b/c it looks like they may cover a loaner) have him DD it to and from work and upon arrival at work to park it on the steepest grade towards their highest $$$ on the lot. See if they trust operating a vehicle that you cant be certain will engage P.

I would be using my E-brake until fix is found for ya.

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