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My truck is a pig from a stop. I have a few friends that have the new truck as well and they said they have the same issue from a stop. I moved from a Chevy truck to Nissan. The Chevy will roast the tires from a stop with traction control off. Nissan just bogs down until about 2500 rpm. After that rpm it is great.

Is this lack of power from a stop a TCM issue or software holding the truck back? Really holding the Titan truck back from being a great truck.
 

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My truck is a pig from a stop. I have a few friends that have the new truck as well and they said they have the same issue from a stop. I moved from a Chevy truck to Nissan. The Chevy will roast the tires from a stop with traction control off. Nissan just bogs down until about 2500 rpm. After that rpm it is great.

Is this lack of power from a stop a TCM issue or software holding the truck back? Really holding the Titan truck back from being a great truck.
It's a TCM issue for the most part. Check out the thread "2017 Titan Transmission TSB Info" at the top of this forum to see how your issues might compare to others. Nissan has released several software updates to the TCM and ECM to address a variety of issues related to shifting and performance. I had the latest update E about 2 weeks ago and it felt like a different truck after the update; 900 miles later, still going strong.
 

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My truck is a pig from a stop. I have a few friends that have the new truck as well and they said they have the same issue from a stop. I moved from a Chevy truck to Nissan. The Chevy will roast the tires from a stop with traction control off. Nissan just bogs down until about 2500 rpm. After that rpm it is great.

Is this lack of power from a stop a TCM issue or software holding the truck back? Really holding the Titan truck back from being a great truck.
This is the update that you want the dealer to get. NTB17-016e . e version is the latest and suppose to be the best to resolve those issues.
 

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Got the update and it shifts better now but still very sluggish off idle. They said the update worked on 80 % of the trucks and I might be in the 20%. They also said the service manager has the Titan and that they just don’t have power from off idle. New technology in the truck. Lol Sounds like crap to me and a bad message to state as a service manager for Nissan. So they still need to work on the performance issue from off idle. I have to continue to work with dealership to get a solution. I would not have purchased the truck it I would have realized it was so Inferior to other trucks for off idle. Truck runs well at about 3000 RPM. I wish it was just as good from off idle. I would be pleased with the truck then.
 

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I have had all the updates done and it was the same as you are describing. After finally learning how to drive this beast again (it spent most of its first 700 miles in the ICU), it either just got better or it learned my driving. For me, it just feels like it's smoothly accelerating now instead of the stomp it down power we had with the first gens (I had two). I learned how to feather it a bit and it will take off, just in a more refined way. At first it was strange, but then I got to thinking since I live in an area where it rains so much, this might not be a bad thing. On the first gens, the wheel would spin, tc kicks in, truck bogs, then you had to floor it before the semi plowed into you. On this new one, there is no spin, and no bogging. I think I like that better than the other way. This gets going plenty quick for me. What I do find weird is say, you take a right hand turn, and it is uphill. Then it kicks down before up again. Once you put your foot into it a bit, gets going fine again. Don't know if it is a flaw in the software since my '15 GMC Canyon did the exact same thing, and same results, no wheel spin in the rain, or very little and downshifting before upshifting. What I really would love to drive are the new 10 speed trannies to see how "light" the first 5 or so gears are to have some understanding of anything more than the 5 speeds we are used to from the first gens and compare them to the 7 speed of now. I would think they would even take longer to get going.
 

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Got the update and it shifts better now but still very sluggish off idle. They said the update worked on 80 % of the trucks and I might be in the 20%. They also said the service manager has the Titan and that they just don’t have power from off idle. New technology in the truck. Lol Sounds like crap to me and a bad message to state as a service manager for Nissan. So they still need to work on the performance issue from off idle. I have to continue to work with dealership to get a solution. I would not have purchased the truck it I would have realized it was so Inferior to other trucks for off idle. Truck runs well at about 3000 RPM. I wish it was just as good from off idle. I would be pleased with the truck then.
Never had an issue with being sluggish off idle, goes like a rocket every time off the line, however I have had issues in the recent past with shift shock and or laboring between 2nd and 3rd gear. It turned out that the first updates that I received in fact only the tcm was updated when they were suppose to also do the ecm as well. I was not impressed when I was told this. That is a well known issue with Nissan and they have the fix for it. So yesterday I had the ecm and tcm updated and they nailed it! Totally a different response to each gear and in fact more performance and already noticeable better fuel mileage. I would go back to your dealer and find out if they really have done the proper updates on your truck. I only say that because I have read through the strings on this topic that some others have not had their updates done properly or not done at all. There are critical stages to this update process and if not done correctly the update simply fails. I was also told by my service manager that they have had on occasion software download failure. Could be the case with you too and that would explain 20% of the trucks not getting them fine tuned. Hang in there your truck is not a piece of crap lol, go back to the dealer and have a senior tech work on it and keep at it until they get it right. That is what I done and all is excellent now, I just hope down the road it does not revert to its old ways but I am told this latest update has been quite successful so we will see.
 

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Got the update and it shifts better now but still very sluggish off idle. They said the update worked on 80 % of the trucks and I might be in the 20%. They also said the service manager has the Titan and that they just don’t have power from off idle. New technology in the truck. Lol Sounds like crap to me and a bad message to state as a service manager for Nissan. So they still need to work on the performance issue from off idle. I have to continue to work with dealership to get a solution. I would not have purchased the truck it I would have realized it was so Inferior to other trucks for off idle. Truck runs well at about 3000 RPM. I wish it was just as good from off idle. I would be pleased with the truck then.
Your service manager says the Titans dont have power off idle? That is BS bigtime lol. I would look for a new service manager or better yet a different dealer.
 

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Turn off traction control and try to floor it from a dead stop and you will see the power it has. Mine will spin the tires for a good 50 feet and keep pulling hard. Mine has way more low end power and speed than my 2015 chevy 5.3 could ever hope for. The Titan take off way harder than the Chevy ever did.
 

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Glad your truck is running right and of course I have turned of traction control. I now know that some of the Titans trucks are running better than others. I will just keep trying to work with the dealership. I reported it to Nissan in a Titan survey. Maybe they will get this fixed in 2018.
 

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I would try another dealer. Go to another dealer and do a test drive of a new one then go to service dept. When in warranty you can go to any Nissan dealer. I do that all the time. I bought from a dealer 2 hrs away because I hate my local dealers sales tactics. But I love their service dept so I bring it there for service. We also have a 15 Pathfinder.
 

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Turn off traction control and try to floor it from a dead stop and you will see the power it has. Mine will spin the tires for a good 50 feet and keep pulling hard. Mine has way more low end power and speed than my 2015 chevy 5.3 could ever hope for. The Titan take off way harder than the Chevy ever did.
Did you find a good deal on new rubber after that 50 foot burnout? lol
 

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Glad your truck is running right and of course I have turned of traction control. I now know that some of the Titans trucks are running better than others. I will just keep trying to work with the dealership. I reported it to Nissan in a Titan survey. Maybe they will get this fixed in 2018.

I never turn off my traction control and she bolts off the line every time. I would suspect you have another issue going on , shouldn't be sluggish whatsoever off the line.
 

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I still have the sluggish off idle and my friend got a Titan with the same issue. Both 2017 Anybody know if they fixed it with an Update. I got the TSB -e update but made no difference. Dealership said to keep checking back for another update. Been 7 months now.
 

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I feel bad you're having these issues. I also feel bad for my rear tires bc my T destroys tires like it is its job! Seriously, try another dealer and test drive one off the lot like the others have previously stated
 

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My 2017 isn't sluggish (it had the reflash) but I can say it doesn't shoot off from a stop like the 2018's. I test drove multiple 2018's, all had identical quick starts off the line - but they also had passenger seats that vibrated like crazy. So i ended up with a solid/non-vibey 2017 and less zip from a dead stop.
 

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I still have the sluggish off idle and my friend got a Titan with the same issue. Both 2017 Anybody know if they fixed it with an Update. I got the TSB -e update but made no difference. Dealership said to keep checking back for another update. Been 7 months now.
The Pedal Commander fixed the sluggishness for me..

Search it... There are a few threads....
 

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IDrive is the same thing as the Pedal Commander and is a little bit cheaper. It's not Bluetooth though (don't see a use for that anyway) The controller box is tiny and easy to place somewhere. I have had both and they do exactly the same thing. It helped my truck off the line a ton. Try one and see, they have a satisfaction warranty on both of them.
 

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I bought the Pedal Commander. It resolved the issue. Burns tires off the truck now. Like it should have been from the factory. Wishful think I guess. Run it on city mode works great for daily driving. Thanks.
 
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