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2023 : Still have the 60 mph shimmy?

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#1 ·
Recall reading about the Titan shimmy at 60 mph (as my old Titan has it), but it seems there hasn't been much talk about it on the last year or two.

Test drove a 2023 Titan SV and purposely got it up to 60 MPH and my wife is the one who actually commented about it.
Continued to 65 then 70.
Usually for me, 60 is when it starts and it smooths out around 65 and smooth as glass around 70.
Today, the new Titan started at 60 and continued until 70.
In fact it was somewhat uncomfortable and ended the test drive.
It was not worth continuing.

What is the deal? Is this still an issue but everyone just deals with it now and no longer posts?

If its still an issue. Does it also exist in the Platinum edition?
 
#6 ·
Never had this issue test driving any other vehicle.
Why specific to the Titans?
Is Nissan the only dealership that doesn't move their vehicles around?
May be tire choice. May be the fact Nissan doesn’t move their trucks as fast as others…

U have two choices. Chance getting tires with permanent flat spots and pay $1000 for new tires

Or go get a Ford or GM fresh out of the factory for $10k more…..

By the way it doesn’t take much time on other brand truck forums to find their “shimmy and shake” threads…
 
#5 ·
Recall reading about the Titan shimmy at 60 mph (as my old Titan has it), but it seems there hasn't been much talk about it on the last year or two.

Test drove a 2023 Titan SV and purposely got it up to 60 MPH and my wife is the one who actually commented about it.
Continued to 65 then 70.
Usually for me, 60 is when it starts and it smooths out around 65 and smooth as glass around 70.
Today, the new Titan started at 60 and continued until 70.
In fact it was somewhat uncomfortable and ended the test drive.
It was not worth continuing.

What is the deal? Is this still an issue but everyone just deals with it now and no longer posts?

If its still an issue. Does it also exist in the Platinum edition?
I’m on my third Titan, all bought new and each one rides amazingly smooth. The trim level should have no influence on vibrations or not.

Clint
 
#9 ·
Mine does it around 62mph. Especially if you have a cup in the center console holder do you see it really shake
 
#10 ·
Recall reading about the Titan shimmy at 60 mph (as my old Titan has it), but it seems there hasn't been much talk about it on the last year or two.

Test drove a 2023 Titan SV and purposely got it up to 60 MPH and my wife is the one who actually commented about it.
Continued to 65 then 70.
Usually for me, 60 is when it starts and it smooths out around 65 and smooth as glass around 70.
Today, the new Titan started at 60 and continued until 70.
In fact it was somewhat uncomfortable and ended the test drive.
It was not worth continuing.

What is the deal? Is this still an issue but everyone just deals with it now and no longer posts?

If its still an issue. Does it also exist in the Platinum edition?
I have a 21 and it did it from day 1. I brought it back several times and the dealership replaced tires and load balanced them etc. but could never find the problem. We opened a ticket at Nissan, but it was never resolved. We were going to go with the lemon law (in Massachusetts), but the time limit expired. This is a real problem with the vehicles that Nissan just couldn't fix. They call it a "characteristic of the vehicle". I believe it's an imbalance of the drive train such as the drive shaft or rear, but the dealerships just don't have the knowledge base to balance it. There are some great videos on you tube about balancing the drive train and diagnostics, so I know the technology is there. Mine problem shows up around 63 to 70 MPH.
 
#12 ·
I love the “characteristic of the vehicle” response from the dealer…..

Yes… it will and should be a characteristic when the rims are bent, driveline angle is off, axle flange is bent, cv shaft bad…and so on…

Vibrations can be tough and time consuming to diagnose.. Something dealers rarely want to spend time on…
 
#14 ·
Mine does it at exactly 70mph and comes and goes. It’s not always there and on 2nd set of tires and present on both sets. My buddy has a 19, and his just started as well, seems to be about 25k-30k range. It is annoying as ****

it’s definitely not the tires, if was unbalanced tire, would be all the time and get worse at higher speeds. Mine isn’t every highway trip and disappears over 70mph when it does happen
 
#30 ·
Mine does it at exactly 70mph and comes and goes. It’s not always there and on 2nd set of tires and present on both sets. My buddy has a 19, and his just started as well, seems to be about 25k-30k range. It is annoying as ****

it’s definitely not the tires, if was unbalanced tire, would be all the time and get worse at higher speeds. Mine isn’t every highway trip and disappears over 70mph when it does happen
My 07 did this after troubleshooting for a few days... I found the universal joints on the drive shaft along with the drive shaft bearing needed to be replaced. I do not have a 4-wheel drive option on the truck. This remedied the problem.
Hope this helps.
 
#17 ·
There is a big thread on it here on the forum somewhere. Its a known issue and people have spent tons of money on tires and rims but one person took their truck to a specialty shop who did some testing and says the harmonics of the driveshaft is at the same frquency as the rear end, or something like that so you have to unbolt the drive shaft and clock it 90 or 180 from where its bolted to the diff, something like that, i think.

Search and you guys should find it. Hopefully you do because i might have mixed up two threads about the vibration so someone find it and we can reread it and i can get my notes straight in my head.

Search for passenger seat shake or vibration, something like that. There is a tsb on it too
 
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#19 ·
If the issue is resolved by the placement of the driveshaft, it sorta makes sense why it appears as a sporadic issue since it would be inserted randomly during assembly.
I knew it has been an issue. Just was hoping it was indeed resolved by now.
If someone finds the thread, please post it here (I will search too). If found, I will take it to the dealership as I have interacted with the same folks there in the service department for 15+ years.
 
#20 ·
Recall reading about the Titan shimmy at 60 mph (as my old Titan has it), but it seems there hasn't been much talk about it on the last year or two.

Test drove a 2023 Titan SV and purposely got it up to 60 MPH and my wife is the one who actually commented about it.
Continued to 65 then 70.
Usually for me, 60 is when it starts and it smooths out around 65 and smooth as glass around 70.
Today, the new Titan started at 60 and continued until 70.
In fact it was somewhat uncomfortable and ended the test drive.
It was not worth continuing.

What is the deal? Is this still an issue but everyone just deals with it now and no longer posts?

If its still an issue. Does it also exist in the Platinum edition?
 
#22 ·
Recall reading about the Titan shimmy at 60 mph (as my old Titan has it), but it seems there hasn't been much talk about it on the last year or two.

Test drove a 2023 Titan SV and purposely got it up to 60 MPH and my wife is the one who actually commented about it.
Continued to 65 then 70.
Usually for me, 60 is when it starts and it smooths out around 65 and smooth as glass around 70.
Today, the new Titan started at 60 and continued until 70.
In fact it was somewhat uncomfortable and ended the test drive.
It was not worth continuing.

What is the deal? Is this still an issue but everyone just deals with it now and no longer posts?

If its still an issue. Does it also exist in the Platinum edition?
The back spacing that Nissan has engineered into the factory wheels makes balancing the wheel/tire assembly extremely sensitive. 2 to 3 grams off and you get the famous shimmy around 60mph.
 
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#28 ·
that talks about replacing a seat but the vibration causing the seat to move is what they actually need to find
 
#31 ·
I have an '08 and recently had to rebuild the diff and driveline. First due to the support bushing for the driveshaft tore apart. Truck had 175K on odometer. But because it did so much damage it took a tooth off the pinion gear. I had one shop replace the bushing and re-installed the shaft. After replacement found the diff bad. I had the diff rebuilt by quality shop with a Tru-Trac installed. Got it back and put together and it had the same shimmy issue spoken about that it never had. After inspecting the brakes, E-brake (a misadjusted one, can cause the issue) found nothing I could see. I took it back to the driveline shop and they inspected the diff and all looked well. He asked for a small fee to inspect the drive shaft assy. They found the driveshaft had a small dent in it barely noticeable. But enough to throw of the balance. Got the it rebalanced $150 and the truck runs great no problem. I feel the factory is getting defective shafts and not testing them on-sight before installation. Just like the 2nd generation engine problems, except everyone now knows about the manufacturing problem.
 
#33 ·
Shimmy is nearly always related to wheel/tire assembly in one way or another. In rare instances, it may be a tweaked axle, or even a bent wheel. The most common is either an un-ballanced tire, or a compromised tire; as in disfigured or damaged. The only other cause would be a bad wheel alignment, which could cause traction oscillation.
If the driveline or any other drivetrain component were the culprit, there would be a vibration at a much higher frequency, which would not have a low frequency shimmy effect.
So the truth is, shimmy is pretty much always associated with wheels, tires, or axles.
 
#34 ·
When the center support bearing went out on my bmw's drive shaft, i had vibes while driving