Anyone have some ideas of which one I should get?

I am leaning towards the Twin Turbo.

My friend has one and it is POWERFUL!

What do you guys think of the Titan? Are they going to keep building them? Is there a Diesel model really coming out next year?

Also, is the Titan really an Armada with a bed?

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Dude what does that mean? :computern

 

Okay - you posted that at TitanTalk.com so you can guess at how most are going to answer these questions.

1) if you want torque go with the diesel. If you don't want to spend a ton of money for fuel, maintenance and want to look cooler than ever other tool out there with a turbo diesel then get a Titan.

While the Armada and Titan share a lot of componants - no the Titan is a 1/2 ton body on frame truck and the Armada is an SUV.

 

Here's the way I see it:

Pros (of a diesel pickup):
No smog check
GOBS of torque
Fairly inexpensive to mod for more hp/tq

Cons (of the same diesel pickup):
Diesel costs $3.89/gal where I live
Oil changes are roughly $90 a pop (every 7500 miles or so)
Fuel filter must also be changed every other oil change
Tons more maintenance than a gas engined counterpart

For my money, since I don't NEED all that torque, I'll take the Titan. Maybe one day when I have a large boat that the Titan can't handle or a huge camper, then I'll get a diesel. Till then, its just not worth it to me.

 

I have a raced a Twin Turbo diesel, and it beat me only by a little bit. He had an intake,exhaust, and a tune. I Just had an Intake, exhaust, and 2* advcance.

THey are nice trucks, cool interior, but I don't think they can be made as fast.

 

If you need to haul a huge load regularly, go for the Diesel. Otherwise, the Titan will be cheaper to buy, maintain, fuel up and will be far quicker than the stock Diesel.

 

THey are nice trucks, cool interior, but I don't think they can be made as fast.

Are you serious? There are multiple 6.4s running 12s in the 1/4. To me, that's pretty dang fast for a four door heavy duty truck.:bang:

 

Here's the way I see it:

Pros (of a diesel pickup):
No smog check
GOBS of torque
Fairly inexpensive to mod for more hp/tq

Cons (of the same diesel pickup):
Diesel costs $3.89/gal where I live
Oil changes are roughly $90 a pop (every 7500 miles or so)
Fuel filter must also be changed every other oil change
Tons more maintenance than a gas engined counterpart

For my money, since I don't NEED all that torque, I'll take the Titan. Maybe one day when I have a large boat that the Titan can't handle or a huge camper, then I'll get a diesel. Till then, its just not worth it to me.

7500 miles is way too soon to change the oil in a diesel IMO. I know plenty of people that change their oil every 25k with no problems.

 

There's no need to change the fuel filter every other oil change. Yes the original cost is higher, and the oil changes are a bit more, but there's a way better resale market for Diesel's than 1/2 tons. Not to mention, I've seen plenty of Diesel's go 300k+ miles with no problems whatsoever so if you plan on keeping it for a while that's something to consider as well. If you're looking for something with tons of aftermarket support, go with the Diesel. If you're looking for something that's pretty quick stock, go with the Titan.

 

From my understanding no mods are needed on the new motor. It has 350 horsepower at 3,000 rpm. At 2,000 rpm is has 650 foot-pounds of torque.

Is there any word of turbochargers on the Titan or a diesel model?

 

If you're asking for opinions between a 1/2 ton gas truck and a 3/4 ton diesel than I'm guessing you really don't need a 3/4 ton diesel. In that case, buy the Titan and save $20K.

 

Well the two are close in price. So I don't know how I would save 20K. My buddies Titan cost him around 43K. The Ford dealer quoted me 40K with a $2,500 rebate.

 

Honestly, there isn't very much difference in price between the two. I mean a Superduty Diesel Crew Cab Lariat FX4 can be had for around 35k, I've heard of people on here paying 33k+ for a pro4x. But Diesel's aren't for eveyone so I'm not going to say one is better than the other. But if you're looking to mod the truck I'd say go with the Ford because the Titan has very little aftermarket support, but like I said they're pretty quick for stock trucks.

 

Well the two are close in price. So I don't know how I would save 20K. My buddies Titan cost him around 43K. The Ford dealer quoted me 40K with a $2,500 rebate.

Your buddy with the Titan got taken big time, and that Ford quote you got is either a smokin' deal, or you must be planning on going really sparse in the option/trim level dept.

I just don't see how it's even remotely possible to be getting similar price quotes on a Titan and a 6.4 F250 with same cab/drive/option levels, etc.:dunno:

 

Well as a disabled vet I qualify for X-Plan pricing with Disabled American Veterans. So that makes anything on the Turbo Diesel price no-haggle.

I see your point though. My buddy paid 43K for an 04 when they first came out. He still has another couple of years to pay on the thing.

I suppose the smaller cab could be an option to keep down the price. The four doors though is really cool and the way to go!

 

I just don't see how it's even remotely possible to be getting similar price quotes on a Titan and a 6.4 F250 with same cab/drive/option levels, etc.:dunno:

You can get killer deals on the Ford's because they sticker is so much more than the actual invoice. My 2wd CC LE stickered at 33k, a Lariat CC FX4 stickers for about 10k more, but you can get them to come down off the sticker price alot more than the Nissan's. A Diesel with relatively the same options as a Titan will run you about 3-5k more depending on the deals you get. But when it comes time to sell it, I gaurantee you'll get over 5k more than you'll get when you sell your Titan.

 

You are comparing two different ends of the pick up spectrum. It really depends on what you are going to use the truck for.

 

Stock For Stock Titan Is Still Faster Im Talking About 4 Dr 4wd Against 4dr 4wd I Know Ive Taken Them Out Before Last One About 2 Months Ago A Good Friend Of Mine Bought One. But Its True Diesel Is In A Class Of Its Own Modding It Is Alot Easier To Get Power Then Modding Our Titan. Modded Diesel To Modded Titan Im Saying Exhaust, Tune,intake..... Diesel 1 Titan 0

 

The Lariat I looked at has leather and a sun roof. There are also alot of other features. I never realized there was so much of a markup on vehicles. Guess you pay what the price tag says right? I do know the Titan is offering a $5,000 rebate. Are you saying I could get it for $8,000 off + the $5,000 rebate? Does that sound like a reasonable offer?

 

as a former diesel driver i can tell you, it depends on what you want to do. if you are going to use the diesel as a DD and not tow something everyday, get a gas motor.... if you are going to tow something everyday the diesel is for you.

as a DD a diesel makes no sense. i just traded in my diesel for that reason...pm if you need any more explanation...

my diesel was a daily driven 13.1x daily driven machine, there arent any titans running close to that on the street, street legal....(nitrous makes them illegal). yes it takes an expensive tranny but the tuning is relatively cheap...

 

So are you driving the Chevy diesel now or a Titan?

 

That is like comparing apples and oranges.... The two trucks are on the opposite end of the full size truck spectrum.. The average person will hardly ever if not ever put that deisel to "work". And it does sound like your boy got took for his titan! 43k better be FULLLLLLYYY loaded with every possible option and lifetime oil changes!! I just got my 08 for XE CC for 17,995 OTD and one of my co-workers got an 08 se 4X4 with ALOT of options for 27,000 OTD!

I guess in the end all that realy matters betwwen the two is YOUR intended use of the truck and your personal preferance... I'd go with the Titan if you don't plan on ripping houses off of their foundations or pulling a HUGE *** trailer.. Just my .02...

 

Anyone have some ideas of which one I should get?

I am leaning towards the Twin Turbo.

My friend has one and it is POWERFUL!

What do you guys think of the Titan? Are they going to keep building them? Is there a Diesel model really coming out next year?

Also, is the Titan really an Armada with a bed?

Diesel News

From Edmunds.com


Nissan Still Thinking Diesel for Trucks
Date posted: 01-24-2008

DETROIT — Nissan Motor Co. Ltd. remains committed to diesel power for its Titan pickup in the U.S., a key product-planning executive told Inside Line at the recent Detroit auto show.

Tom Lane, Nissan's corporate vice president for product strategy and the product planning division, says, "The market is a complete bloodbath," but admits Nissan "could do a better job selling the Titan."

However, he refutes rumors that have suggested Nissan is considering dropping the Titan, saying, "We're not planning on getting out of this."

In fact, just the opposite: Lane implies Nissan remains committed to adding diesel power for the Titan.

"I would expect Nissan to have diesel trucks in the future," he says. "Fuel efficiency for trucks is a huge issue — and it's a good powertrain for the truck customer." Lane declines to mention when the diesel option will be in showrooms, however.

Lane adds that Nissan is not necessarily trying to pull domestic-pickup buyers.

"We want to be a little different," he says, while noting that it's also difficult to steal buyers from Ford, GM and Chrysler because of the intense brand loyalty in the pickup segment. Nonetheless, Nissan's continuing commitment to diesel power can be seen as an effort to remain competitive with domestic brands — after all, each of Detroit's Big Three has guaranteed diesel engines for their light-duty pickups, beginning with '09 models.

It once was believed to be a near-certainty Nissan would source its pickup diesel from an independent engine maker such as International Engine or Cummins, but the outside chance remains that Nissan could adapt a large V6 diesel made by partner Renault SA; a Renault-developed and manufactured 3.0-liter V6 diesel will be seen in '10 for the next-generation Maxima.

What this means to you: Tales of Nissan's abandonment of the full-size-pickup market appear to be highly exaggerated. — Bill Visnic, Correspondent

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Late last year the President of Nissan hinted to a discontinuation of the Titan. So maybe there is confusion and disagreement with the leadership at Nissan. Who actually makes the call if they move forward with a loss leader. Maybe they move forward with a diesel option.

One thing they might do also is offer a V-6 motor and downsize. Then the V-6 Titan would have no comparison to a heavy duty rig. Right now it seems the Titan is very comparable to the F-250 except from what everyone here says it is the opposite. The two trucks are nothing alike!?!?

 

Late last year the President of Nissan hinted to a discontinuation of the Titan. So maybe there is confusion and disagreement with the leadership at Nissan. Who actually makes the call if they move forward with a loss leader. Maybe they move forward with a diesel option.

One thing they might do also is offer a V-6 motor and downsize. Then the V-6 Titan would have no comparison to a heavy duty rig. Right now it seems the Titan is very comparable to the F-250 except from what everyone here says it is the opposite. The two trucks are nothing alike!?!?

What Nissan has put on hold for now is the Heavy Duty program for the Titan. Nissan is planning on adding a V-6 Standard Cab line to the Titan so that they can market it as a work-truck. Right now the closest comparable to the titan are the F-150, Chevy/GMC 1500, Dodge 1500. These are all 1/2 ton trucks. The F-250 is a 3/4 ton truck and is not a true comparison to the Titan.

The reason i went with Titan is becasue i could get all the options i want for a whole lot less than i could from any of the big three; also the only truck on market that has more cab space than the titan is the Dodge megacab.