Any users of Deaver C-10s here?

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gr8titan

Discussion Starter · Sep 5, 2013 (Edited)

The deeper I get into my suspension project, the more I need to pick the brains of T owners here on TT. So before I proceed, here's the big picture of what I have and what I have ordered coming in:
1. 33x12.5-18 Nitto Mud Grappler wrapped on 18x9 zero offset wheels (installed)
2. Extended sway bar links from Rough Country (on hand)
3. Pair of '08 Moog front coil springs (part#81194) from RockAuto.com (on Hand)
4. Bilstein 5100 I ordered from TAP (in coming)
5. For peace of mind, Total Chaos uni-ball UCA's (in coming)
6. I have on hand eBay 1.75" lift shackles that looks flimsy so I am seriously considering the Deaver C-10 3 leaf from PRG.

Question: can you owners of Deaver C-10 kindly share your first hand experience with these leaf springs re: lift attained, ease of install, ride vs stock, quality of product, where you purchased your Deaver C-10 and seller customer service.

Thank you in advance.

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gr8titan

Discussion Starter · #21 · Sep 12, 2013

honda250xtitan said:
I"ll have 2" leveling kit coming off my truck soon'ish...solid billet prg kit

I decided not to use blocks to lift my 04. I will be installing a set of 08 Moog 4x4 coil springs with a Bilstein 5100 and UCAs. According to present users of this combo ... they get 2.75-3.5 inch lift without using blocks and the advantage of increased travel.

kartdriver8

· #22 · Sep 16, 2013

I love my Deaver C-10 rear springs. I got them from PRG too. It does lift the truck quite a bit. I recommend the shackles unless you want the rear really high. My shackles are at the lowest setting. Check out my pics.

kartdriver8

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gr8titan

Discussion Starter · #23 · Sep 17, 2013

kartdriver8 said:
I love my Deaver C-10 rear springs. I got them from PRG too. It does lift the truck quite a bit. I recommend the shackles unless you want the rear really high. My shackles are at the lowest setting. Check out my pics.kartdriver8

I got a nice surprise yesterday ... Just got delivery of my Deaver C-10 rear leaf springs from PRG 2 weeks ahead of their advertised shipping time of up to 4 weeks.

Anyway kartdriver, How much lift did you get from the C-10s at the regular shackle height? I was going for the original "raked" stance ... If I am getting 2.5-3" front lift (from a combo of '08 Moog 4x4 springs + Bilstein 5100 + UCAs) ... Do you think I still need the PRG adjustable shackles to lower the lift down a bit?

I'm gonna have a mechanic brother from church help me install all these this coming weekend.

Thanks bro

dirtpoorfam

· #24 · Sep 19, 2013

Just put c-10s on my truck. Loving the ride and height my rear is sitting at 41&1/2 to the fender. Only complaint was installing them lol

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gr8titan

Discussion Starter · #25 · Oct 6, 2013 (Edited)

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Installed my Deaver C10 (from PRG ... thanks Greg) today and I totally scrapped the idea to install "lift shackles". I had an old set on hand I've ordered a years back then I saw an Ad by Max Trac and the picture looked stronger than the one I had so I purchased their set. THE PLAN was to install LIFT SHACKLES if the C-10s did not give sufficient lift I wanted ... BUT LO AND BEHOLD: The Deaver C-10s had an excellent lift that my son and I (for a combined weight of 450lbs) had to stand on the bed so that my mechanic could slide in the bolt of the bottom of the Bilstein 5100s (from TAP). I hope it settles a bit more after I drive it around a few miles. Rear is presently sitting at 42" ... No Blocks ... No lift shackles

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375HHMag

· #26 · Oct 8, 2013

It seems like I read somewhere that these will help with axle wrap as well. I currently have rc traction bars, but the clanking over bumps is driving nuts. I am considering just changing out to the C-10 pack and getting rid of the bars and the 2" block as long as the wrap isn't too bad. Just thought I would ask before I order the C-10s.

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honda250xtitan

· #27 · Oct 8, 2013

gr8titan said:
Installed my Deaver C10 (from PRG ... thanks Greg) today and I totally scrapped the idea to install "lift shackles". I had an old set on hand I've ordered a years back then I saw an Ad by Max Trac and the picture looked stronger than the one I had so I purchased their set. THE PLAN was to install LIFT SHACKLES if the C-10s did not give sufficient lift I wanted ... BUT LO AND BEHOLD: The Deaver C-10s had an excellent lift that my son and I (for a combined weight of 450lbs) had to stand on the bed so that my mechanic could slide in the bolt of the bottom of the Bilstein 5100s (from TAP). I hope it settles a bit more after I drive it around a few miles. Rear is presently sitting at 42" ... No Blocks ... No lift shackles

tease! more pics:crying::crying:

gr8titan

Discussion Starter · #28 · Oct 8, 2013

375HHMag said:
It seems like I read somewhere that these will help with axle wrap as well. I currently have rc traction bars, but the clanking over bumps is driving nuts. I am considering just changing out to the C-10 pack and getting rid of the bars and the 2" block as long as the wrap isn't too bad. Just thought I would ask before I order the C-10s.

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I personally believe that may be true because if you move something away from where it is anchored (like with the use of lift blocks on an axle away from the leaf spring) by law of physics movement by leverage is increased thus at full throttle from dead stop, axle wrap is potentially more possible. With the C-10s the axle is in direct contact with the leaf assembly minimizing that possibility. For what it's worth, I also used the same OEM C-clamps ... Meaning the axle itself was close to the OEM distance from the spring assembly

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375HHMag

· #29 · Oct 9, 2013

gr8titan said:
I personally believe that may be true because if you move something away from where it is anchored (like with the use of lift blocks on an axle away from the leaf spring) by law of physics movement by leverage is increased thus at full throttle from dead stop, axle wrap is potentially more possible. With the C-10s the axle is in direct contact with the leaf assembly minimizing that possibility. For what it's worth, I also used the same OEM C-clamps ... Meaning the axle itself was close to the OEM distance from the spring assembly

That was the thought process I was following as well. The extra leafs would firm up the existing pack providing more support where as the block acts more like a fulcrum allowing it to flex easier.

Oh well, guess I will have to get a set and just test it out. Hopefully I still have my original ubolts. I think the ones I have on now will be too long.

gr8titan

Discussion Starter · #30 · Oct 9, 2013

375HHMag said:
That was the thought process I was following as well. The extra leafs would firm up the existing pack providing more support where as the block acts more like a fulcrum allowing it to flex easier.

Oh well, guess I will have to get a set and just test it out. Hopefully I still have my original ubolts. I think the ones I have on now will be too long.

Smart minds think alike :rockon You could always cut them bro ... but cut them with the nuts already threaded in ... so you won't have difficulty setting the nuts into the newly cut threaded bolts.

gr8titan

Discussion Starter · #31 · Oct 9, 2013

honda250xtitan said:
tease! more pics:crying::crying:

Soon bro ... soon

gr8titan

Discussion Starter · #32 · Oct 9, 2013 (Edited)

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Rear height achieved with Deaver C-10 is unchanged at 42" after driving around on rough for 10 miles. My little Titan 4x4 is finally growing looking up to his big older brothers. Pictures below (L) after the Deaver C-10 and (R) stock suspension with Hellwig taction springs.

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loufish

· #33 · Oct 14, 2013

My C-10's in action

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gr8titan

Discussion Starter · #34 · Oct 14, 2013

loufish said:
My C-10's in action

Prunner drop test3 - YouTube

Love the Vid bro. Nothing better than real experience vs hearsay or feelings. What rear shocks are you using?

Maddox

· #35 · Oct 14, 2013

may have been addressed already, but what is the difference between c-30's and c-10's?

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SocalTitan

· #36 · Oct 14, 2013

Mdox said:
may have been addressed already, but what is the difference between c-30's and c-10's?

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C30's provide a little more lift and provide more load handling than the C10's and are said to be just a little stiffer than the C10's as well.

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loufish

· #37 · Oct 14, 2013

What rear shocks are you using?

Like my sig says, SAW's 2.25" piggys......The C-10's for me ride better then stock, but the overload leaf is long gone and when I tow heavy the back will drop up to a couple of inches depending on the tongue weight of the trailer...but that's for like a 20ft enclosed trailer...It's all good though because my custom shock mounts allow more compression travel then most (of course at the cost of droop travel) and even with the rear end dropping that much, I still have a couple of inches before hitting the air bumps....

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miketan

· #38 · Oct 17, 2013

You're not using the RC cast metal extended end links are you? If you are, then get rid of those things as soon as possible. They're junk. Get the PRG heimed adjustable end links. They are much better and safer too.

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gr8titan

Discussion Starter · #39 · Oct 17, 2013

miketan said:
You're not using the RC cast metal extended end links are you? If you are, then get rid of those things as soon as possible. They're junk. Get the PRG heimed adjustable end links. They are much better and safer too.

You mean the front sway bar end links? You're right ... they're cast, looks junk but I already had them installed. No worries ... they're the next to go after I get rid of my Bilstein 5100 rears with the 5125 or the King rear shocks ... wherever my budget is at ... at that moment I decide to purchase from PRG.

Well, we all have to live and learn

gr8titan

Discussion Starter · #40 · Oct 18, 2013

Bilstein 5125s on order. Greg, please have mercy on this oldtimer and get them to me as soon as possible so I can start enjoying my Titan again.

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