[NRA_guy]

I subscribed to Consumer Reports and they sent me a small booklet entitled "Buying Guide 2017 - 2,000+ Rated Products".

They rated washers, vacuum cleaners, chain saws, tires, paint, printers, etc.

They dedicated 67 pages in little type to rating cars, SUVs, and trucks.

They only mention Nissan Titan 1 time---and that is a Titan XD SV Diesel. They rated it last in full size pickup trucks.

They cover Toyota Tundras, Ford F-150s, Chevy Silverado 1500s, and Ram 1500s.

They mention Nissan Frontiers in another place where they cover Chevy Silverado 2500s, GMC Sierra 2500HDs, Honda Ridgelines, Toyota Tacomas, and Toyota Tundras, but not Nissan Titans.

And in the detailed coverage (17 potential trouble spots such as engine, fuel, electrical, etc.) of every different brand and every model car, SUV, and truck made from 2010 to 2015, they omitted Nissan Titans.

They covered Nissan Altima, Nissan Frontier, Nissan Juke, Nissan Leaf, Nissan Maxima, Nissan Pathfinder, Nissan Rogue, Nissan Sentra, Nissan Versa Hatchback, but not Titan.

Seems like they went out of their way to avoid mention of Titans.

Anybody else notice that?

 

[bender2]

I subscribe. I noticed it too.

 

[BWV]

I did the CR subscription for a while... every time i needed an appliance..they never had current info.. every time i looked for car info, it was abysmal or felt slanted with what they were familiar with, computer peripherals..digital cameras.. watches.. not enough info.. etc...
Its a good magazine for "what was good" if you look to buy used stuff.. but for new stuff.. its a waste.

 

[Scan999]

The Titan gets no love hence why Nissan barely sells any.

 

[NRA_guy]

The Titan gets no love hence why Nissan barely sells any.

Yeah, I thought maybe low sales numbers was what kept Titans out of the ratings . . . but I noticed they included such things as

• Porsche Macan
• Mercedes Benz CLA
• Lincoln MKS
• Kia Cadenza
• Hyndai Veloster
• Chevrolet HHR and
• Audi Allroad

I'm guessing that the sales numbers are not very big for such models.

I think that the ratings come from Consumer Reports subscribers.

Maybe Titan owners just don't subscribe to Consumer Reports or we maybe don't submit ratings to Consumer Reports when invited to do so.

 

[Scan999]

I didn't say sales numbers are the reason the Titan doesn't show up in Consumer reports. The Titan doesn't get much respect and never has except in 2003/4 release and some praise on the XD.
I quoted this from 2016 February's Car and Driver in another post.

"No one thinks about it, no one talks about it, and few outside Canton, Mississippi, assembly plant would have missed the Titan if Nissan had humanely euthanized it."

It's that pure hate toward a 1/2 ton pickup truck that will keep you out of the news, comparisons, and anyway of ever getting any respect.

 

[jdmartin]

I think it depends on sale figures relative to the category, rather than broad overall figures. The Titan's sales numbers relative to all other trucks are non existent past about 2006 or 2007.

 

[NRA_guy]

I think it depends on sale figures relative to the category, rather than broad overall figures. The Titan's sales numbers relative to all other trucks are non existent past about 2006 or 2007.

I wondered about sales numbers.

Anybody have the sales numbers broken down by model and year?

I'm sure Ford, Chevy, and GMC have the biggest numbers.

But I wonder what the numbers are and how Nissan numbers compare to Toyota.

OK, I found 2015 and 2016 numbers and I see what you mean:

Top 11 Best-Selling Pickup Trucks In America - 2016 Year End - GOOD CAR BAD CAR

 

[bender2]

Regardless the fact our trucks receive very little advertisement or enough exposure, makes it unique. Unique in the sense you don't see one on every bloody corner, like you do with the big three. To this day, I still have people ask me what truck is that? Personally I'm ok with that, I like being different.

 

[BWV]

Hehe... sales doubled last year... from half a percent to almost one percent of full-size trucks.

I do find it kinda odd that so few are sold.

It's not like it's "odd", or ugly, or even expensive...hell, mine was way less than what I originally set out looking for(Tundra)... and Nissan dealers are not that hard to find.

It is kinda cool having something uncommon.

 

[NRA_guy]

I agree. And I am not sure why more folks don't opt for Titans.

Low numbers may be why I am having trouble finding a 1-piece rear floor liner for my King Cab.

PS: Wonder who the 2 people were who bought a Cadillac Escalade EXT in 2015. Talk about being out there alone . . .

 

[jdmartin]

The Titan has suffered for years from a lack of support from Nissan. Full size trucks have virtually no market outside of the US, and Nissan was not very healthy in the late 2000s. They didn't advertise, had to scrap a truck project with Chrysler, and had high gas prices. The fact the truck is still here is amazing to me. I think it doesn't really cost them anything anymore, since they spend nothing on advertising, and probably figure the Titan as a loss leader or a niche filler to upsell customers.

 

[55mike]

In Oct 2015 I was in the market for a CC pickup. I looked at a few Fords but in my price range, I was concerned about their engine spark plug issues. Being a Chevy guy, I was really looking for a nice GMC or Chevy pickup in the 2005-2010 years, reasoning those model years would be in my price range. I wasn't looking at all for a Titan.

The wife and I test drove a 2007 Chevy, 2wd, CC, leather and under 100K miles. Hated the truck. As we were leaving the dealership, the 2007 Titan 2wd, CC, LE was sitting there in the row. Sure, it was priced a bit more than the Chevy, but I decided to take a look anyway.

OMG.

The Titan was TWICE the truck as anything else I was looking at. Fit, finish, POWER, were all far superior. So why the is Titan treated as some sort of 2nd class vehicle is very confusing to me. :eek_surprise:

 

[jdmartin]

In Oct 2015 I was in the market for a CC pickup. I looked at a few Fords but in my price range, I was concerned about their engine spark plug issues. Being a Chevy guy, I was really looking for a nice GMC or Chevy pickup in the 2005-2010 years, reasoning those model years would be in my price range. I wasn't looking at all for a Titan.

The wife and I test drove a 2007 Chevy, 2wd, CC, leather and under 100K miles. Hated the truck. As we were leaving the dealership, the 2007 Titan 2wd, CC, LE was sitting there in the row. Sure, it was priced a bit more than the Chevy, but I decided to take a look anyway.

OMG.

The Titan was TWICE the truck as anything else I was looking at. Fit, finish, POWER, were all far superior. So why the is Titan treated as some sort of 2nd class vehicle is very confusing to me. :eek_surprise:

Amen, brother. Preaching to the choir. I like a good truck - I don't care who makes it - and I put the Titan up against anything. I have not drove one of the new ones, and admittedly the original Titan got "long in the tooth" with no change from 2004-2015, but you can count me as someone who likes it when trucks stay the same. Parts are plentiful, bugs get worked out - OK, manifolds aside - and you know what to look for. Trucks used to always have 10 year life spans, or so. They're treating trucks today like they treat consumer sedans - 4 years and out. It may be good for sales figures, but it sucks for the people who actually buy these things to do something other than look good. Tossing 1/2 a ton into the bed and towing a dump trailer while driving down washboard roads is a lot different than cruising to Applebees with your kids, yet they treat the rollout and lifespan the same way. It pisses me off, actually, because trucks have become abhorrently expensive partially because of non-stop design and marketing. Just give me a good truck, dammit. :big_grin:

 

[NRA_guy]

Amen! I think lots of folks are buying trucks because cars and SUVs have gotten too small for the average family's use.

And "stylist" took over car design from the engineers back around 1964 when Mustangs started being hot items.

Remember the days of the big tail fins in the 1960s?

Stylists have now taken over truck design.

Federal regulations and lawyers have played a major role, too.

I don't need or want a bunch of digital crap and computer controlled transmission, brakes, and acceleration. I much prefer a truck without it.

 

[djmoore250]

I loved my 2010 and love my 2017, I'm not sure why the Titan gets no attention it's a great truck. I think for consumer reports they don't cover the Titan due to insufficient data collection, not enough owners are submitting their reviews to the magazine.

 

[kaipo13]

Hehe... sales doubled last year... from half a percent to almost one percent of full-size trucks.

I do find it kinda odd that so few are sold.

It's not like it's "odd", or ugly, or even expensive...hell, mine was way less than what I originally set out looking for(Tundra)... and Nissan dealers are not that hard to find.

It is kinda cool having something uncommon.

Love my Titan, but going to have to disagree with this assertion.

The new Titan is god awful ugly, and that's just fact. Looks like the deformed child of a Tundra and an F150. Until it gets a facelift (no matter how great of a truck it is) I won't be buying another Titan.

I'd say Nissan lost my business with that move, but I just bought a 2017 Armada... always wanted a Patrol

 

[BWV]

Love my Titan, but going to have to disagree with this assertion.

The new Titan is god awful ugly, and that's just fact. Looks like the deformed child of a Tundra and an F150. Until it gets a facelift (no matter how great of a truck it is) I won't be buying another Titan.

I'd say Nissan lost my business with that move, but I just bought a 2017 Armada... always wanted a Patrol

Hehehe... I was thinking of the Gen 1 trucks and past sales when I typed that

 

[Indy]

In Oct 2015 I was in the market for a CC pickup. I looked at a few Fords but in my price range, I was concerned about their engine spark plug issues. Being a Chevy guy, I was really looking for a nice GMC or Chevy pickup in the 2005-2010 years, reasoning those model years would be in my price range. I wasn't looking at all for a Titan.

The wife and I test drove a 2007 Chevy, 2wd, CC, leather and under 100K miles. Hated the truck. As we were leaving the dealership, the 2007 Titan 2wd, CC, LE was sitting there in the row. Sure, it was priced a bit more than the Chevy, but I decided to take a look anyway.

OMG.

The Titan was TWICE the truck as anything else I was looking at. Fit, finish, POWER, were all far superior. So why the is Titan treated as some sort of 2nd class vehicle is very confusing to me. :eek_surprise:

Sounds somewhat familiar, but for me it wasn't the spark plug issue. I was coming from an Expedition with the 5.4 and did the dreaded spark plug change myself (solid 12 hours under the hood wrenching for freaking spark plugs). What got me was the package game since my primary purpose was towing. Seemed every domestic I looked at, didn't have the full tow package so they were all rated for around 5k, which wasn't going to cut it. So I got fed up and said it's either a Titan or Tundra since the Tundra's are all setup for max towing and isn't to hard to find a Titan with big tow. With the Titan, got the most truck for my money and couldn't be happier with it. Also the Tundra's look like they need to go on a diet to me.

 

[Indy]

Love my Titan, but going to have to disagree with this assertion.

The new Titan is god awful ugly, and that's just fact. Looks like the deformed child of a Tundra and an F150. Until it gets a facelift (no matter how great of a truck it is) I won't be buying another Titan.

I'd say Nissan lost my business with that move, but I just bought a 2017 Armada... always wanted a Patrol

I like the looks of the new ones. Love the looks of the old ones more, but a lot of people don't, so it hurts their mass appeal.

The Tundra crowd went through this same thing, look at the original Tundra's and what they then turned into. The originals look tiny compared to the next iteration of them and the original Tundra owners hated it. But the larger looking truck had more mass appeal and that is what you have to have. You don't grow by keeping a small niche group happy, you can make a living that way, but not going to grow much either. You have to have more mass appeal to grow.