I have a BDPP, which as is won't work on the '04 or '08 and up without an update. I can't get the BD update software to load on my home comp because it doesn't like something already installed. Means I can't do an update to get it to do more than those years I specified. :dunno: I've done the 2° for a few guys around the area and have never charged a dime. I got mine done free before I got the BD, so I just pay it forward.