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rkawski said:
Just wanted to give you guys a heads up. I've been testing a set of Ceramic pads for the Titan. Per the vendor I had my rotors cut prior to installing and bedding the new pads. The vendor believes that the "warped" feeling is not due to the rotors actually warping but to poor pad material transfer to the rotors.

I've got about 1000 miles on the Ceramic pads now. Which includes 600 miles of towing a roughly 6800lb load. I have to say that I beleive that these will be the best bang for the buck brake mod you will be able to do!

On my tow trip a fool decided to brake check me on the 401 in Canada. This was not a smart move as I had 12,000lbs coming towards his bumper. The truck stopped very good prior to the trailer brakes ramping up to their full output. Also at one point I forgot to turn my brake controller on and the truck stopped 12,000lbs pretty damn good on just it's own brakes!

Since returning from that trip and driving the truck without trailer in tow I have to say the following about them.

1.) The dust *WAY* less then the stock pads
2.) They don't fade like the stock pads
3.) They STOP LIKE NO TOMORROW

I'm working with the vendor and Mossy Performance to get them put into production in the next few weeks. Keep watching on http://www.nissanperformancemag.com for details on them.
rkawski,

Where to look - now or future - www.nissanperformancemag.com ?
Forums, certain issue, etc.?

Continuing experience same as initital?

Thanks for info.
 

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billaku said:
rkawski,

Where to look - now or future - www.nissanperformancemag.com ?
Forums, certain issue, etc.?

Continuing experience same as initital?

Thanks for info.
Yes I will have an update on www.nissanperformancemag.com for November. I had hoped that I could get someone to help do a brake test to compare a stock truck to my truck but it looks like no-one wants to help out with that. I'm working on getting a truck from my dealer. The problem is that it doesn't have theoff road package so I'll have to swap wheels to make the test more comparable.

The pads will be available from Mossy Performance. You will not be disappointed. The truck now brakes as well as my 2600lb cars.
 

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Ok, "Stupid Service Guy". Not very many people would even THINK about the service department since they're not needed until something is due for a checkup or a problem occurs. It just seems that if the dealer is good enough, maybe, just maybe! the service and friendliness would carry over to the other departments. I guess it's just another one of those deals where people in the same organization dont' talk to each other. BTW, I didn't save anything on my Titan. Hell, I didn't even get to drive it until 2 days after I signed over $31k for it. Not even a test drive! (My good loving wife got it first!).

As for the brakes thing, check this out. (being an ex-navy guy, a boiler technician, I believe I have a pretty good understanding of how machinery works.) So here goes. "The knee bone is connected to the...."..

IF the steering wheel shakes, where's it coming from? Well, what's between the steering wheel and the ground? A WHOLE LOT OF PARTS, that's what! If I have only 6300 miles on my Blond Titan SE, then I must have over 20k miles on all the shaking parts, right? Just because I was bored the other day, I took him down to the local tire shop and had one removed. They put it on their balancing machine and did a runout on the tire. To most, thousandths of an inch isn't much, but to me it's a LOT! And there is actually a flat spot on both front tires of about 12 thousandths (.0012"). This after driving him over 2k miles with warped rotors.

Want another one?
It hardly rains in Sunny San Diego, but when it does it's SLIPPERY! WIth warped rotors, I found out when I tried to avoid some fool doing stoopud stuff in front of me, that ABS doesn't work when you have warped rotors, either!

Ahh, what the heck! What's a service department if you don't total the truck, eh?
 

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I took mine in this A.M. and they gave me a loner while they put the "new Brake Kit" on. It still is not done, but I am willing to bet it will cure the prob. Bye the way this is my second time to the shop for the same symptom :gunz:
 

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To most, thousandths of an inch isn't much, but to me it's a LOT! And there is actually a flat spot on both front tires of about 12 thousandths (.0012").
You meant .012" on the rotors right? Not tires? 12 thousands run out is a lot on the rotors...but of course you couldn't measure that on a tire :)
 

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I work on base (32nd street naval station) as one of 4 Safety Specialists and know people with the ability and equipment to do a runout on a brick if they could. A runout was done on both tire/wheel assemblies (fron). Yep, .012" off on one, .015" off on the other. So my total guess was right... FLAT SPOTS! For each shake/judder, things are grabbing just a little bit causing the tire/wheel/brake assembly to grab. (a bit redundant here).

UPDATE: Just called Mossy Nissan (Kearney Mesa) after NISSAN-USA Customer Service called me today during lunch: Parts are in with my name on the box. FINALLY!
 

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32nd street? My son was born at the Balboa Navel Hospital, his mother was a Hull Tech. Thank you for serving in the Armed Services.

I don't mean to bust your "chops", but you can't realistically measure .012" wear on a tire, the tire isn't that perfectly round when it's new, it won't even seat on the bead of the wheel that perfectly. That's why you measure the rotors, they are a machined piece, capable of holding that tight a tolerance.

I used to crew chief on a NHRA drag race team, our racing slicks didn't hold that tolerance, and our car was capable of 195+ mph in the 1/4 mile!
 

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I had the brake tsb done again yesterday and here is the diagnose and the parts they replaced:

Front brake rotors have excessive runout. Replace front brake pads-replace brake rotors-surface with on car brake lathe-replace caliper torque members-replace caliper pins and bolts.

Here is the list of parts they replace:

Pad kit-disc 41060-7s027 (1)
member-torque 41014-7s010 (2)
boot kit-front 40135-7s025 (2)
bolt 41005-7s000 (4)
rotor-disc brake. 40206-7s000 (2)

It seems they did exactly what the lates brake tsb lists. I have to ask, what is the torque member? is it the caliper itself? or just part of the caliper?

Thanks
 

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loufish, I'm also a Crew Chief on a S/C--S/G NHRA Team, Trust Me here, If SOMEONE is TRYING to measure .012 runout on a TIRE Your NEVER going to get through to them!!!!!!!! Have a NICE DAY!!!!!!! :huh:
 

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loufish, I'm also a Crew Chief on a S/C--S/G NHRA Team, Trust Me here, If SOMEONE is TRYING to measure .012 runout on a TIRE Your NEVER going to get through to them!!!!!!!! Have a NICE DAY!!!!!!!
Free education to those who will listen. :hat:

I crewed on a Comp Eliminator team, A/A...500 cubic inchs, and 5 speed Lenco. Wild ride! The owner offered me several chances to launch it, but I chickened out, no steering for the first 60-70 ft.
 

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amati5 said:
It seems they did exactly what the lates brake tsb lists. I have to ask, what is the torque member? is it the caliper itself? or just part of the caliper?Thanks
It is the bracket the caliper bolts to and then the bracket bolts to the hub. Order up the pads. 3,000 miles and counting Carbotech Bobcats are still working awesome.

Recently I came back from a trip out west to JGTC. While out there I drove a rental car and my friends race car. I came back and drove my SE-R with metal masters and thought it stopped like ***. Few days later I drive the Titan and go WOW these brakes are awesome. The truck stops and feels way better then my 2600lb SE-R!
 
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