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Whats kickin all? Long time no see.

Today I managed to light up the rear tires on my 2006 Titan SE 4x2 with the traction package, limited slip I believe, during a standing peel out.

Now here is my question... how come i left one measily tyre mark? I want two of them bad boy marks behind me! haha. :thedevil: so... does the Titan have a 1.5 way slip or something? I am pretty sure she is not a 2 way because i would have two tyre marks instead of one. and not a 1.0 way because it would be MUCH harder to keep her under control when things go sideways.

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Traction package? That's a new one on me! If you wanna lay down 2 tire marks, get a Detroit TruTrack.
 

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Yellomantis said:
Traction package? That's a new one on me! If you wanna lay down 2 tire marks, get a Detroit TruTrack.
yup yup, ya need a trutrack!
me to as a mater of fact.
 

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Here is the option

its towards the middle of the page, its $300. after the spray in bedliner and before the side airbags package.

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That's just ABLS and some tow hooks, neither of which are going to help you lay down two tire smoky burn-outs. The Titan has an open differential (except OR models with the e-locker.)
 

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hmmm... then why do i leave two channels in mud? do open diffs do that? :confused:

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c1971tra said:
hmmm... then why do i leave two channels in mud? do open diffs do that? :confused:

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Ummm, as in your tires leave two marks in the mud? Well despite an open-diff's shortcomings, it still doesn't make one tire levitate above the driving surface.

With an open differential torque is delivered along the path of least resistance. If both tires have equal amounts of traction, then both with rotate at the same speed. So theoretically, even an open diff can do two-wheel burnouts. But the likelihood of that is next to none. In mud you get constantly changing levels of traction between the two tires, so often times both will spin. Try starting from a standstill with on tire on wet grass and the other on pavement, you'll really see the effects of an open-differential.
 

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i was refering to a time when i almost got stuck in some mud. from a dead stop both tyres were spinning with engine really turning some revs. that could have been momentum still in the drive line, or that both surfaces were very close to being equal in no traction. i'm not disagreeing with you its just why would they call it limited slip if its ABLS? marketing? or am i missing the point?

i am deffinetly getting that detriot piece when my warranty runs out! haha! i just thought this whole time i had a TRUE 2 way or 1.5 way limited slip.

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c1971tra said:
how come i left one measily tyre mark? I am pretty sure she is not a 2 way because i would have two tyre marks instead of one.
Wow! He went all the way to England just to do a burn out.
 

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ABLS just uses the ABS system to brake the tire losing traction, sending power to the other. It's not a true LSD, but has the same intent.
 

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In the mud or dirt it is very possible to leave two marks on the dirt or mud.

Remember....even in an open differential you have power to BOTH wheels!!!! Until one has less traction then the other.

In the dirt you can typically for a bit spin both tires meaning equal traction.

On the pavement it takes more power to turn. The torque of the motor through the drive train lifts the right tire up giving it less traction and causing it to spin.
 

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Yep, open difs suck pretty much. I want a true-trac also, but uprev is coming first! Then, after that, I'm sure I'll have a BIG reason for it!!
 

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c1971tra said:
Whats kickin all? Long time no see.

Today I managed to light up the rear tires on my 2006 Titan SE 4x2 with the traction package, limited slip I believe, during a standing peel out.

Now here is my question... how come i left one measily tyre mark? I want two of them bad boy marks behind me! haha. :thedevil: so... does the Titan have a 1.5 way slip or something? I am pretty sure she is not a 2 way because i would have two tyre marks instead of one. and not a 1.0 way because it would be MUCH harder to keep her under control when things go sideways.

-c1971tra
It's ABLS (Active Brake Limited Slip). It uses the ABS sensors at each wheel to detect slip, brake the slipping wheel, and send power to the opposite wheel. On 4WD models, we have that both front and back. I find it to work fine in snow but it's not gonna get you two black lines because the Titans power easily overpowers the brakes and you'll just get a flashing SLIP light. So basically it's an open diff with some electronics involved. The fact that it does LIMIT slip to some extent is how they get away with calling it a limited slip rear. That's a generic term, not a brand.
 

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Thank for all the input guys! you deffintely cleared things up.

-CJP
 
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