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So, 2 weeks ago I traded my 04 KC for an 08 CC LE LWB Titan. We drove from Long Island to Shallotte, NC and spent a week there. In all, we drove 1800 mile from start to finish and just thought I would give my impressions.

The GOOD:

Comfortable ride even over long distance and straight 12 hour driving. I can’t even explain how much quieter the CC is over the KC. No rubber to rubber sound like my 04.

Back seat, my daughter thought she was in a living room with her rear seat dvd. She said it was very large and the seating was comfortable.

The truck is extremely easy to drive. My wife even drove about 4 hours on the way home. The only thing she can’t do is park it. It’s long as hell.

Navigation was great. It worked as expected and saved me some time as my navigation systems usually do. The only issue was that it took us straight through Washington DC when all the others usually take me around it (a better way to go). The system has more options each time I use it and I am sure I haven’t used them all. Great system.

Stereo is amazing. I still can’t figure out why the same system in my 04 sounded so much worse. The 08 RF 6 disk sounds really good. I removed it from the 04 3 month after I purchased it but this one is staying.

Easy lift tailgate, it’s a no brainer. My 04 didn’t have it and it’s a great feature.

Rear entertainment was flawless. My daughter stayed busy with her DVDs and never had an issue with it. Remote control and wireless headphones are a great feature.

Lastly, for now anyway, the 38 gallon gas tank. Driving well over 500 miles without having to stop for gas was great. The only downside to this is I have yet to find a gas station that doesn’t cut you off at $75.

And now the not so good:

I believe this truck has an air leak in the driver side door somewhere. Window seal maybe. My wife thinks it’s the air over the tow mirror sound but I had the same mirrors on the 04 and never heard it. It’s a little annoying. I will look further into this when i have time.

The tires: I hated them on the 04 and I hate them now. The upside to this is that in 15,000 miles, they will be bald and I can replace them. My 04 had the same Goodyear SR tires and only went 18,000 miles when they had no tread left. My brothers 05 went the same way.

Lastly, the engine. Although smooth and strong is not near as quick from a stop. I am a bit concerned about this because everyone that drives it notices it’s not as fast as the 04. I guess it could be the extra weight but I am not sure yet. I am not sure if it has anything to do with the tow package but my 04 had it and it was MUCH faster. I will say this, I will probably add some mods if I have to because I am sure most Titans will beat me in a race and the Hemi probably will as well. If anyone has any ideas on this I would appreciate it.

That’s the end of the not so good list. Great truck, great ride, great trip.

Pictures below are of the poor ba$tard that was stuck on my grill and my wife comfotably driving 4 hours.
 

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I have noticed that my 2005 SE KC Titan was much faster than my 2008 SE CC 4x4. Obviously there is a weight difference, but the '08 supposedly has more HP and TQ. I traded my '05 a week ago yesterday and I only have 230 miles on it right now so I haven't really romped on it yet, but it sure feels less aggressive off the line.
 

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OK, So i am not alone. The difference in HP between my 04 and my 08 305 to 317 respectively. The weight difference is only 300 to 400 pounds more. I cant see the weight making this much of a difference. Something else must have changed. I will have to do some more research and see if the gearing was alot different.

Any other 2008 owners that are coming from an older model feel that the 08 is much slower??
 

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I got to admit the same thing about the 08 i test drove a few weeks ago...

Right now with the few mods i have, my truck will smoke an 08 pretty badly...

If i remember correctly mine would outrun the 08 before the mods anyway....

Maybe once it is broken in it will liven up some......
 

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I don't what you guys are doing to tires, or maybe they had some bad compounds early on, but my Goodyears have 29,000 miles and look like they can go another 10,000-20,000 more miles.
 

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My truck is a tire eating mofo !!!!!!

Already been through 2-sets of the BFG rugged trails.....

I have the Revos now, hoping to get at least the same or more miles outta them...They are about 70.00 cheaper per tire than the BFG`s...
 

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The tires are not the same as you would by from a tire store. I made a big issue of this at the beginning (back in 04) and was told by Nissan and several tire stores that the goodyears were half lifes. They are sold to dealers to save money. The obvious downside is that they do not last as long.

I replaced them in 2005 with a set of $200 per tire Michelin Cross Terrains and the difference was amazing.
 

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Dont you guys rotate your tires every other oil change?
 

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1. OEM tires supplied by tire companies are of a cheaper compound quality and don't last as long as say, the same model but purchased aftermarket. and btw, the Goodyear SR-As are the best example of poor quality tires provided as an OEM tire. they don't last, plain and simple.

2. 07s and up titans have had the drive-by-wire adjusted due to the few complaints from 04-06 owners saying pressing the gas pedal was a bit touchy. i honestly love my touchy gas pedal... you get used to it.
 

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I switched my Rugged Trails to Bridgestone REVOs and would NEVER go back! What an amazing tire. Wet traction, unlike with those crappy BFGs, is now what it should always have been.
 

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HudsonValleyTitan said:
I switched my Rugged Trails to Bridgestone REVOs and would NEVER go back! What an amazing tire. Wet traction, unlike with those crappy BFGs, is now what it should always have been.
from what i've heard and read countless times, the REVOs apparently are the BEST replacements for the OEMs.
 

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2. 07s and up titans have had the drive-by-wire adjusted due to the few complaints from 04-06 owners saying pressing the gas pedal was a bit touchy. i honestly love my touchy gas pedal... you get used to it.
i noticed that about the 08's.. i like my touchy gas pedal as well. with out it feels like you got no balls... no balls
 

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5100 lb truck with 305 HP = 16.72 lbs per HP
5500 lb truck with 317 HP = 17.35 lbs per HP

That will make for decreased performance. Plus I heard that the newer Titans didn't open the throttle as quickly as the earlier ones since they had driveline issues, mainly the rear diffs, and Nissan thought that slugging down the power response would reduce the abuse by grannying the throttle response. It sounds like it could be fixed through the ECU, but that might void warrantees(?).
 

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Z-Hauler said:
5100 lb truck with 305 HP = 16.72 lbs per HP
5500 lb truck with 317 HP = 17.35 lbs per HP

That will make for decreased performance. Plus I heard that the newer Titans didn't open the throttle as quickly as the earlier ones since they had driveline issues, mainly the rear diffs, and Nissan thought that slugging down the power response would reduce the abuse by grannying the throttle response. It sounds like it could be fixed through the ECU, but that might void warrantees(?).
the WOT is an issue with 04-08s but the company UpRev thru reflashing the ECU has addressed the unability for the 04-06s to now open 100% at WOT. it was a drive-by-wire issue in the ECU that controls the throttle response inconjuction with pedal input, that nissan reduced just so it wasn't as jumpy.
 

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My factory Goodyears have 26K on them and like Learjet they look like they can go another 10-20K. Maybe we just got lucky and got good tires from the factory.
 

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Its hard to figure gas milage. I checked with a few fill ups and it looked around 16. But with the higher speeds down south and my inability to stick to that, that number may be off. I am sure if I did 65 all the way down and back, the numbers would have ben much higher.

I hope in time, I can get that jumpy gas peddle back. Seems like Nissan slowed things down quite a bit.

Not to change the subject but just so others know, when I was half way down to North Carolina, the dealer called me to let me know that Motor Vehicle department here in NY kicked back the transfer of my 04 plates. As it turns out, I am over the weight limit and the truck MUST be registered commercial. I am on vacation so I am not ready to deal with this yet, but I will.
 

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Its hard to figure gas milage. I checked with a few fill ups and it looked around 16. But with the higher speeds down south and my inability to stick to that, that number may be off. I am sure if I did 65 all the way down and back, the numbers would have ben much higher.

I hope in time, I can get that jumpy gas peddle back. Seems like Nissan slowed things down quite a bit.

Not to change the subject but just so others know, when I was half way down to North Carolina, the dealer called me to let me know that Motor Vehicle department here in NY kicked back the transfer of my 04 plates. As it turns out, I am over the weight limit and the truck MUST be registered commercial. I am on vacation so I am not ready to deal with this yet, but I will.
Let us know what happens. I have a few friends who own new F-150s here in NY and all had to register them as commercial because of weight.
 

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Well, Here is is:

My Truck: 4x4 Long Bed LE 5,818

New York State Law:

Pick-up Trucks (Part 106.6 (c)). You can register a pick-up truck in the passenger class if the pick-up truck complies with all of these requirements:
The unladen weight of the pick-up truck is 5,500 lbs. or less.
The pick-up truck is used for non-commercial purposes.
The pick-up truck does not have any business advertisements.
A permanent camper top completely encloses the truck bed, and which has one or more side windows.

I wouldnt even bother trying to complain. New York sucks that way.

Lucky for me I have a License plate cover that will cover the commercial line on the bottom.
 
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