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Along with basketwife and two of our grands.

I’ll track the numbers and offer other observations along the way.

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Hooked up and heading out. Only 8 minutes behind schedule.

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“Squatty” indeed. Wimmim creatures pack a load of stuff. The 11 yr old grandson showed up with a small duffel bag. His 10 yr old sister nearly outpacked her grandma.

ScanGauge 3 performed as hoped.
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Weather has been okay but the forecast is for lite snow tonight. Let’s hope it is indeed lite.

Some things are the same everywhere. Mellow Mushroom pizza and my “gentleman’s dinner knife.”

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So to wrap up the report part of this thread, here’s the skinny on fuel economy and other observations from towing the camper on a road trip that required multiple refuelings.

Load
I’ve not seen verbiage in the manual that satisfies the following question for me: “Is the capacity of the truck specified payload plus the specified tow capacity, or does the specified tow capacity of the truck include payload within that stated figure?

Not knowing that answer for certain, but aware of the litigious nature of the lunatics on the roadways, I choose to err towards caution. For my purposes in towing the camper I include payload (stuff loaded in the truck proper) within the amount specified as tow capacity of the truck. There is another subtle safety aspect to this: I value my own life but I cherish my wife and grandkids. I’m not going to overload the rig and create an additional level of risk for them.

With that noted, and give or take a few pounds for stuff I’ve not weighed (e.g., the snack bag, the grands tablet devices and such), the thumbnail below is what I’m moving along the highway:

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Fuel & Fuel Consumption
Previous tows with the truck have been within 60 miles of home, so this was my first multi-day, multi-fill-ups experience with the Titan while towing. Nearly all of the towing miles were on 4-lane and interstate highways.

Over prior months I’ve experimented with the three grades of commonly available gasoline, including one month running ethanol-free regular. The difference in fuel economy numbers is minimal, but in terms of engine sound and general “ambience” this truck seems to like premium better than the other grades. Knowing this trip was coming up, at the first of the month I switched from regular in February to premium for March. All fill-ups for this trip were with premium grade gasoline. I expected the mpg’s to take a hit and they did, to the tune of 6 mpg less than my weekly average of 15 mpg.

Total miles 777.9
Consumption average: 9.65 mpg

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Tank 1 was departure and thru B’ham at 55 to 60 mph.
Tank 2 was interstate at 60 - 62 mph.
Tank 3 was about 75% towing and 25% driving around Pigeon Forge w/out the camper.
Tanks 4 & 5 were the trip home at 63 to 65 mph, and or course with the camper in tow.

Whenever refueling I try to always park on a level apron. After the pump shuts off, I then “top off” twice. I do the top-off routine because pumps vary in flow rate, which affects suds-ing and the volume of fuel in the tank at shut-off.

Refill number 4 (which reflects mpgs for tank 3) was unavoidably filled on a sloped apron. Additionally, some 30 miles of driving on tank 3 was around Pigeon Forge without the trailer. So the uptick in mpg’s I consider to be a result of that those factors.
 

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ScanGauge III
The newest iteration of ScanGauge can give one a case of information overload. Each of the three screens can display nine (9) readouts and each screen can be customized. The new touchscreen is easy to use, making modification of the colors and the brightness a simple chore. My primary goal for this trip was to monitor the transmission temps. On upcoming excursions I’ll fiddle with other available gauges for other purposes. Generally Intake Temp read a few degrees warmer than Ambient Temp as displayed on the dash readout of the truck.

Often when commuting about town the two transmission readouts will match, but under acceleration, and when towing, Temp 2 generally shows hotter. My thinking is that Temp 1 is the pan, and Temp 2 is at the torque converter. Further, the ambient temps were cold which helps hold down the transmission temperatures. I expect the readouts will show hotter on upcoming summertime trips.

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Weather
  • Day 1 (Sat) was a beautiful day with a high of 57 degrees Fahrenheit. The low that night went to 38.
  • Day 2 (Sun) turned cold and rainy. Temperatures were 48 for the daytime, with a low of 31 overnight.
  • Day 3 (Mon) was cold and clear with a high of 45 and a forecast low of 29. I didn’t want to fill the potable water tank only to have to drain off half of it, so I made a trip to Lowes and picked up a Styrofoam spigot cover and improvised a cover for the city water hook-up. It will go into the winter camping box for seasonal use.
  • Day 4 was cold and overcast, with a windy high of 42. The overnight low was 21 making for a COLD take-down for departure on day 5.

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The kids live on a farm so being out in all kinds of weather is normal to them. Nonetheless the cold kept us from doing a typical big, outdoor cookout with the friends who were along for the trip. Instead we spent a good deal of time inside playing cards and board games. We took along a Roku that hooked into the campground Wi-Fi so an evening movie was likewise possible.

Camper
The Jayco 224BH is a good choice for camping with kids, providing the weather permits “living outside.” However, it is less than ideal and can feel cramped when bad weather forces everyone inside. Our grands are well-parented and have easygoing, pleasant dispositions, but they enjoy being outside more than being cooped up with the old folks.

When camper-shopping we opted for solar and an upgraded frig and HVAC unit. The solar panel allows use of everything onboard without shore power. We were on shore power, but if off-grid, as long as the propane holds out, the furnace is available. And on the three cold nights the heftier furnace showed its value.

We anticipate the kids will want to camp less as they get older, so basketwife and I may later opt for a similar size travel trailer but with a slide, and no dedicated bunks, as to optimize inside open space for inclement weather camping as a couple.
 

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Towing
For most of the trip I drove without using cruise control. Several times I caught myself doing “throttle creep,” with my travel speed getting to 68 to 70 mph uphill while towing the load. At my load weight the 5.6L V8 has plenty of power in reserve.

Mostly I drove in tow-mode, and I worked on using the throttle to manage the transmission. After a bit of experimenting I was able to bump it to force a 1-gear downshift without racing the engine. I also learned that firmly stepping on the brake will cause an immediate, multi-gear down-shift. As best I can tell it was least two gears. Occasionally I used manual-mode to do calculated downshifts, and the gear in use shows when using manual mode. Nonetheless, a continually displayed gear-indicator would be an improvement for this truck.

Finally, and while I mostly “drove the truck” in terms of throttle, I did experimented with cruise-control. On a level road, cruise makes the transmission shift into overdrive (gear 7), and on upgrades cruise will cause downshifts that race the engine. Interestingly, I found cruise helpful on modest downhill grades. Using cruise in tow-mode on modest downhill grades automatically moderates travel speed using engine braking.

Overall it was a satisfactory towing experience. The Titan is a hoss of a truck, but if you are reading this as a potential Titan owner, don’t buy a Titan and then whine if the mpgs are not that of a Prius. 😂
 

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Love all the data!! Glad your basketfamily had a great trip.
Thank you! We had a great time and as usual with such trips, the combination of change of pace and increased activity level wore everyone out. The grands slept all night every night, and still slept most of the way back. Oddly, and while I am normally a lite sleeper, I slept like a brick and feel more rested than I have in months.
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Just curious on your weights, did you actually weigh in or is that a best guess?

I only ask cuz last year I towed to Yellowstone from western Oregon and estimated about 6000 lbs. I pulled into a weigh station and learned i pretty much suck at guesstimating and was actually coming in at about 7100 or 7200 lbs I think. I’d have to go find the thread I did on it, but it was over 7k.

Looks like a nice trip either way! Enjoy it :)
 
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