Has the tread been deleted
I think your SOL.... before the thread got killed it was only the top 25 plus a few lucky buyers that squeaked in orders when Berk opened up there on-line store for the group buy.I was bummed, hadn't checked in for a while and now the thread is gone, and the price went up, and I was number 30 something on the list... what should i do now? pay retail?
You were one of the original 25 on the GB. Berk came back and offered the remaining (unpaid) folks the $375 GB price. Berk is now on TT. PM Bryan @ Berk with your contact info and Paypal info.I had spoke to someone at Berk today around 11ish he advised me BERK will be communicating with the GB via Titan Talk as they were going threw a "middle man" to relay the info by the end of the day. Havent seen anything yet and noticed the GB thread had been deleted WTF! so confused! **** it! gonna get a custom set up threw a local fab shop. oh well on the bright side I have an extra 375 for my T =)
Why is the thread gone now. that is the biggest question I have, I posted today on Bryans post and then called him via phone and he said that he was using a list that was there already, and he corrected it on the spot after talking with him. I am concerned about the thread disappearing now however, what info that was there was useful. Yes there were some tempers that flared, and with some reason I might admit, but standing by the Titan owners, many followed this with due diligence. I tried the Stillen deal to start with, and tried to work a deal there, we all know how that worked out. I DO THANK Berk for stepping to the plate on this, and yes, they are a business. I know it is easy to say, being I was an early one on this also. I gave up after the Stillen failure, but Gary picked it up and ran with it. We both have Nismo LT's collecting dust in the garage or vault in my case. Bryan was very respectful today on the phone, answered all my questions, and fixed the issue I had with his latest post, but I went straight to the person that needed to clarify it for me.He did say it will be 3-4 weeks for the next delivery.
Why is the thread gone now. that is the biggest question I have, I posted today on Bryans post and then called him via phone and he said that he was using a list that was there already, and he corrected it on the spot after talking with him. I am concerned about the thread disappearing now however, what info that was there was useful. Yes there were some tempers that flared, and with some reason I might admit, but standing by the Titan owners, many followed this with due diligence. I tried the Stillen deal to start with, and tried to work a deal there, we all know how that worked out. I DO THANK Berk for stepping to the plate on this, and yes, they are a business. I know it is easy to say, being I was an early one on this also. I gave up after the Stillen failure, but Gary picked it up and ran with it. We both have Nismo LT's collecting dust in the garage or vault in my case. Bryan was very respectful today on the phone, answered all my questions, and fixed the issue I had with his latest post, but I went straight to the person that needed to clarify it for me.
To delete an entire thread on the issue if you are whizzed off is childish, and I will tell that to anyones face, IN PERSON, and it serves no purpose other than to be selfish and childish as I said. We can come to some solution as to this, and Bryan is definitely, after talking to him working on a solution. So it is time for some maturity in this, and as I said, talk to Bryan and give him a call, we can work this out, we have all spent too much time to work on this, many more than others, to find a company that will at least support us. We all can remember the BBK fiasco as well, promises and promises, at least Berk put a set together, which is more than I can say for many companies out there that refuse to support our Titan's. Once again it is easy to say coming from me, but without Gary forging ahead, we still would have had only one inferior solution for b-pipes of this quality.
Bryan at Berk said those of use that initially paid for our pipes (when the announcement first went out) are good to go. He already has the materials for our pipes and is working on production.You state it was deleted because of non-supporting vendor. Of course they are not a vendor, they are in R&D stage in developing market for us owners who are disappointed in current vendors. Why would they want to be a vendor and pay vendor fees if they were not making money here? They were not pushing it, you were. Now everyone is in uproar. Strange.
So whats the deal? For those that paid, I am assuming we are still ago?
Now that Berk is in the making of our pipes, I assume it could move forward into the Vendor stage (if Berk sees a marketable and possibly profitable response)?
Gary, on a personal note, THANK YOU for stepping up and leading this charge and even taking this hit. You are taking it very personally and we see the dedication. We are now in the home stretch...Your tenacity and drive will pay off. I am sure many feel the same way as I. I am even sure Berk thanks you.
NOPE!!! That's exactly the problem!!!!!!!When I saw the B pipes listed on the website, I thought anyone could buy them for $375 delivered and Berk would just make more than 25 sets. I'm sure sure others thought the same way and made the purchase.
Thanks Gary, I appreciate that, and it appears that things are moving in the right direction once again. I spoke with Bryan yesterday right after I posted my concerns with the Paypal thing. The money for my pipes was already out of the bank and in their hands, and Bryan corrected it on the spot. We spoke for a good 15 minutes talking about the issues and it seems as if Bryan is trying to make a good solution to all of this, I thank him for that and I also thank him for working with us. The problem I do have now is this, why this thread was removed after how many posts and what was being done in the thread. If there was an issue with the vendor, waiting on now to kill it is, IMO, a cheap shot. Is this site really for Titan owners? Or is this site all about finances? I understand sponsorship, I do it myself in a Titan forum, I understand that bills have to be paid, what I do not understand is the way it was done. If this was an issue, then it should have been an issue long before now, that thread has many, many posts and was up for at least a month or more, and to do something like that now is definitely not the way to win loyalty to a site. So I think that it should be looked at in the future, or at least someone from the site could have explained it to the site members, which IMO opinion is the proper way to have handled it, but in reality it should have been handled long before now. This all might be a ban for me or time off from the site, but if we cannot express our opinions, and I think I have been within the rules on it, then so be it. I will stay in contact with the folks that I need to somewhere, my email won't be censored by this site nor anyone else and friends that I have made here, I have theirs and they have mine. I understand emotions and some had rightfully had theirs be elevated, but I did see apologies and such and everything seemed fine again and I have some elevated ones myself right now. I have always been one to speak my mind, and not likely at my age it will change. So any consequences that come from this little rant, so be it. There are options out there.Thanks Corky! You're one of the members I really respect on these boards. Yes, it's 2:51 am and I'm still up answering PM's and responding to this thread after working all day. I'm so irritated at this whole issue and honestly can't sleep.
One of the mods Pm'd me and basically explained that the thread was deleted because it was from a non supporting vendor (Berk). That's it, nothing more, nothing less. Although from the text messages and voice mails I received from friends, it sounds like it needed to be deleted. They were way out of line and have no business causing drama and playing arm chair quarterback! Out of the 40,000 plus members on here that are logged on EVERY SINGLE DAY posting nonsense, NONE of them stepped up and decided to do something about bringing a quality b-pipe solution to market or ANY other product for that matter to the Titan community.
The one company and owner that decides to step up and actually listen to our needs, develop a solution and work with with me on a great price is beat down, called names, etc over a simple misunderstanding and is basically bullied into giving into their demands.
Take a lesson in people skills or read a book on effective communication instead of acting like a delinquent!!! It's a joke and I honestly can't describe how disappointed I am at some of our members and their actions. I hope folks realize the long term impact this will have on the Titan community and future vendors and sponsors. I understand it's hard to truly convey feelings or thoughts over the internet and it's generally a very poor way to communicate, but it's still no excuse for the inconsiderate comments I witnessed. Comparing Berk to another company is just complete nonsense and simply shows ZERO class! Not cool at all!!!
It looks like the 2-5 people that missed paying are being taken care of... Good for them. I hope we can all move forward and learn from our mistakes. I will NOT being doing any more GB's for the Titan community. I dug up an old project I worked on ~3 years ago and was moving forward with it, but because of the lack of respect shown to Bryan and his company I've decided to call it quits and end my communication with them...