i agree 100%. Blisteins are valved so great for on street ride, and are a bit better off road then stock but nothing like real coilovers.I couldn't argue 2.5 versus 2.0 - no clue on that. I can tell you that ride quality on the street is almost identical between my SAW shocks and a set of Bilsteins I have. Both are far better than the OEM Rancho shocks. Had I known that the Bilsteins were so similar to SAW I never would have bought the SAW shocks. They are expensive and need to be rebuilt every few years (more big expense). My SAW coilovers have not been rebuilt and I'm not sure they need to be. So I have mixed experience with SAW (which are now sold by aFe Power).