[Tonedover]

2010 XE

took her in to local Muffler guy, going for a mild to moderate exhaust note

they held on a magna 22 (meh), flowmaster 50 (nice), a 3rd something i have never heard of, and finally the black widow 250 - Pete says he is the only dealer in iowa and im gonna love it ... slap er on!

wow.....

low and throaty at start up but backs off at idle, touch the gas and that RUMBLE kicks in. drove around all evening loving it. picked up the wife and she commented on how quiet it was when we rolled up the windows! yes!

no pings no flub

best so far is there is no sign of a consistent drone at speed - tested in traffic as well as interstate, caught maybe 5 seconds of drone between 4th and OD

so 6 hours of ownership later im here whoring myself for Black Widow !

anyone else on here running one?

 

[Pale Rider]

stock exhaust mani`s and cats? did you just cut in the muffler? huge difference between headers and stock exhaust outcome.

 

[Tonedover]

stock exhaust mani`s and cats? did you just cut in the muffler? huge difference between headers and stock exhaust outcome.

Stock mani and cats; XE stock is 2 pipe to muffler and 1 out, so we Y jointed the exhaust prior to muffler and then stock tubing out to chrome tip

Obv not a ton of HP gain with just a muffler swap, but I feel a some more torque from takeoff than I did before, did a real nice peel out this morning on the way to work

Have a CAI and the engine is audibly 'breathing' better between the two additions.

Next week my programmer arrives, so I think the proof will really be in the pudding when get the tune I want on it.

 

[nightowl]

All that will change with the BW muffler when headers are installed.

 

[Pale Rider]

All that will change with the BW muffler when headers are installed.

yup, that`s why I asked, the overall volume (sound) with change for sure.

 

[Tonedover]

I'm waiting on a manifold problem before I do any header / catback work. Only 54K miles on my girl so far. Figure this will def tide me over another 40K+ miles. I definitely know the drill though -- I don't post much, ive lurked for the last 5 years --- Cajuns, Uprev and Borla when the manifolds finally go.

Also - Still loving the black widow 250 though!


Next steps:
-Bully Dog incoming!
-Fix some slight body damage on passenger side
-bolt on OEM rear bumper replacement (starting to get visible rust and has dent from a post incident)
-rough country lift 6"
-move to 35"s on new 20s after the winter

 

[nightowl]

I hate to see you waste money on the muffler and Bdgt when you can get the parts that work with headers the first time. Save a little more and just get Uprev and you will have it for when the manifolds take a dump. So many make the mistake including myself with the wrong mufflers and tuners.

 

[Tonedover]

its not a "wrong" choice if im happy with what i got

if i want to upgrade later on, like i mentioned, ive seen the 274 threads on uprev

 

[nightowl]

its not a "wrong" choice if im happy with what i got

if i want to upgrade later on, like i mentioned, ive seen the 274 threads on uprev

Your correct as long as your happy with it. My point is 99% of the people who keep the Titan will expierence a cracked manifold at some point and the muffler and canned tuner you purchased will not work with headers at that time. You could have saved some money and went with what does work when that time happens. That was my whole point trying to save you some $$$ down the road. Im all about that doesnt matter if you buy from me or Joe Blow. Keep us posted on your install.

 

[Indy]

And the big issue, for some of us is if we can't find a place to we trust to put on headers, we are going to go with oem manifolds anyways. I'm at a 100k right now and no issues, so I'd probably lean towards another set of OEM manifolds as by the time they crack again, I'd be in a different truck anyways than deal with the hassle of finding a place that can do the work correctly on headers and getting it tuned.

That's the part that is often over looked in these discussions. Some of us don't have the time, place and tools to do this kind of work, even if we might have the ability to do it.

 

[carbonduc27]

And the big issue, for some of us is if we can't find a place to we trust to put on headers, we are going to go with oem manifolds anyways. I'm at a 100k right now and no issues, so I'd probably lean towards another set of OEM manifolds as by the time they crack again, I'd be in a different truck anyways than deal with the hassle of finding a place that can do the work correctly on headers and getting it tuned.

That's the part that is often over looked in these discussions. Some of us don't have the time, place and tools to do this kind of work, even if we might have the ability to do it.

I'm in the same boat as Indy. I KNOW the cracked manis are coming but I dont have the time to do a preemptive strike on them right now. So i also did the bolt on stuff now and will wait on the headers.

I love my BDGT because on the digital temp gauges and the more sensitive throttle setting. I know if is overpriced for a temp gauge but i will recoup some of that when I sell it and go full headers/uprev. plus the muffler/intake etc will all work with the headers and do I not mind if it gets louder.... hehe

BTW, I am running airraid intake and i just swapped my flowmaster (40?) - 13" muffler for a magnaflow 18". The old setup came with the truck and was pretty rusted. it was single 3" in and dual 2.5" out. The magnaflow setup is 3" in with dual 2.5" turndowns. MUCH quieter around town. More sophisticated sound, deeper. But still sounds good on the gas and no drone.

Glad the muffler worked out for ya Indy

 

[nightowl]

Here is the deal with going back with manifolds. You dont know when they are going to crack. I had a customer with a QX56 last month who had cracked manifolds in Feb 2016. Had the manifolds replaced under warranty at his local Nissan dealership didnt cost him a dime. He called me July 2017 with cracked manifolds again now out of warranty. The problem is you have no idea when its going to happen. I have had a 2014 Titan with 40K miles and a 2011 with 26K miles cracked manifolds. Both guys put headers on the truck and voided warranty because they had been through the manifold issue previously on their other Titans and loved the outcome with headers. There is no way I would pay $3000-3500 to have any make manifold on my truck with track records like that if I planned to keep it. Your not guaranteed another 100K miles by no means. I have seen the $900 each Maganflow manifolds fail at 6 months. I understand some may have issues finding a installer but its worth the leg work to do so in the long run. Installers are out there mostly off the beatin path performance oriented type shops will do it all day. I have sent the Cajun Stage 1 to Nissan dealerships before believe it or not. Cracks will happen to most of us so this is why I preach on this forum and the FB pages to buys parts that work with headers to save you hassle and $$$$ when that time happens. Uprev through Joe at Cajun saves you the hassle of finding a shop to tune as well, he tunes you through the net via etuning so it can be done in your driveway.

 

[nightowl]

Oh yeah. Pulling that large camper would be soooo much better with 50 extra HP and TQ. . Not so much with a Black Widow muffler though.