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Well WTF did you expect DC, "shiny happy people" all dancing on the Hill after ignoring your oaths of office to uphold the Constitution as well as dismissing the vocal opposition as racist fear mongers and idiots? Myself and many others are angry and disgusted with the members of Congress on both sides of the isle these days and with this latest Health Scare debacle by the Democrats, You all should feel fortunate that threats are mostly all that's happening to you.

So to summarize the last couple of years, you folks in DC bailed out the people who are in large part responsible for the greatest economic mess in the history of the U.S. and for the most part, sent nobody to jail over it, are harboring the criminal and corrupt within your ranks, are continuing the same disastrous regulatory practices that got us here, are printing so much money that our dollars will be worth half as much, have decided to double down on the national debt and are therefore stealing our children's future but figured this was a good time to shove a single payer, Socialist, Trojan Health Care horse up our azz and to top it all off, you also decided in your infinite wisdom that calling many of the citizens names like racist, Neanderthal, Tea Baggers, Astroturf and the like was a good idea as well and are now surprised or upset because you are getting threatening phone calls, give me a f*cking break morons.

Boo hoo, you got some threatening phone calls, count your blessings you unconstitutional, deceitful azzholes because one Congressman had the gas pipe in brother's house cut by an angry citizen so from what I can tell, most of you are fortunate to just get people telling you that you are a piece of crap or saying that the American citizens wish you ill. Personally I don't give you guys in DC a second thought when I lay my head down to sleep or when I awaken in the morning, but I am fairly tolerant and would prefer to have you all brought up on charges instead, or to see the States tell DC to piss off and secede from the union but I am a bit more forgiving than many folks you have lied to, insulted and harmed as you are finding out.

Remember DC, this is a Republic, not a f*cking Democracy and If you want a Democratic Socialist country, move to Canada or Europe azzholes or at the very least, have the common courtesy and courage to amend the Constitution instead of just ignoring it, or basing all the unconstitutional legislation you have been passing via the "magical commerce clause" which supposedly gives you the authority to do whatever the f*ck you want. Yeah right, I'm sure that's exactly what the founding fathers had in mind, a Federal Government with the power do do as they pleased and "Fundamentally Transform" America without so much as a Constitutional amendment and all via the magical, do as we please, interstate commerce clause.

Take notice Congress, you have been weighed, measured and found wanting and now you are being warned, back the f*ck off azzholes before you bite off more citizen than you can chew and for Pete's sake, quit your whining about being threatened over the phone when you are lucky most of you aren't laying on the Capital steps, tarred and feathered with a copy of the Declaration of Independence shoved up your butt and a Constitution crammed down your throat.

By the way Mr. President, you Marxist POS, FYI, now would be a really bad time to ban guns, get amnesty for illegal aliens, enact cap and trade or any of the rest of your Progressive agenda.

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Yeah, no joke. Maybe who ever does it can disable his transportation that day.
Lol, sorry Mr. Paul, there seems to be a problem with all four of your tires this morning.

I was kind of hoping for some fear inspired resignations at this point but after Pelosi walked arm in arm into the Senate with the rest of the Democrats the other day while mimicking some civil rights march, as if the two are remotely related, I could see that all hope of any sane actions on the part of the Democrats was going to be impossible in the foreseeable future and that they will likely hold their ground, romanticizing that they are saviors of the people in their quest for unconstitutional "Social Justice" and the inevitable destruction of liberty that is to follow.
 

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Republican Congressman Cantor's office is being fired upon now, I wonder why? Is it Republicans doing it, Democrat perpetrators or possibly Independent voters?

Here's a clue Congress, both Republicans and Democrats by the way, many of you are criminal, corrupt and generally disgust the average citizen so grow a spine, get a clue, quit spending our money, quite bailing out your buddies or making back room deals with one another and focus on upholding your oaths of office for a change or you can probably look forward to more of the same.

Hey Pelosi, a "civil debate" would require you Progressives to actually debate something rather than just passing an unconstitutional health scare Bill strictly along Party lines and attempting to run the country like a f*cking Dictatorship instead of a Republic you stupid c*nt.

By the way, if you unconstitutional azzholes from both Parties are looking for a safe haven, maybe Ron Paul can let you hold up at his place for a while because if I had to guess, I am betting his home and office are quite safe from the average pissed off citizen right now considering he governs for the people according to the Constitution instead of via corruption or in favor of Commie ideology.
 

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yeah, thats right. ***** and moan all day about criminals on the hill, but legitimize an idiot firing a weapon into the office of an elected official.

He must be a patriot for sure. /sarcasmoff
 

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By the way, if you unconstitutional azzholes from both Parties are looking for a safe haven, maybe Ron Paul can let you hold up at his place for a while because if I had to guess, I am betting his home and office are quite safe from the average pissed off citizen right now considering he governs for the people according to the Constitution instead of via corruption or in favor of Commie ideology.
Fellow ronpaulian...nice.
 

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yeah, thats right. ***** and moan all day about criminals on the hill, but legitimize an idiot firing a weapon into the office of an elected official.

He must be a patriot for sure. /sarcasmoff
Well when the leaders don't follow the laws, it doesn't leave much room for others that don't want to be slaves to do much.
 

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Well when the leaders don't follow the laws, it doesn't leave much room for others that don't want to be slaves to do much.
so what your saying then, is you don't mind if someone fires a gun randomly into an office?

You know the Marine Corps taught me a lot of things, one of which is simple. Know your target. One shot, one kill. Firing randomly into an office is bull****. You may not like the way someone votes, but it doesn't give you the right to shoot them. It certainly doesn't give you the right to shoot randomly into an office. Other people work there too.
 

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so what your saying then, is you don't mind if someone fires a gun randomly into an office?

You know the Marine Corps taught me a lot of things, one of which is simple. Know your target. One shot, one kill. Firing randomly into an office is bull****. You may not like the way someone votes, but it doesn't give you the right to shoot them. It certainly doesn't give you the right to shoot randomly into an office. Other people work there too.
Didn't say what he did was alright, what I said was people feel they are running out of options. And that their voice means nothing. They will reach out in their own ways. We don't even know if the office was occupied at the time. Which leads me to believe it was not.
 

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lol, running out of options? midterm elections are around the corner. As soon as those are done, opposition candidates will start announcing Presidential bids. We are almost half way through Obama's first term. Seems to me like the only people out of "options" are those who just want to fight anyways.

This is still a Republic. The people in Washington are still put there by the people. They can be taken out (by a vote, not a .50cal) by the people. Calls of tyranny are bs until that fact no longer exists. And since it was proven quite true in 2000, 2006 and 2008 election cycles well... Its all just horse****.
 

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lol, running out of options? midterm elections are around the corner. As soon as those are done, opposition candidates will start announcing Presidential bids. We are almost half way through Obama's first term. Seems to me like the only people out of "options" are those who just want to fight anyways.

This is still a Republic. The people in Washington are still put there by the people. They can be taken out (by a vote, not a .50cal) by the people. Calls of tyranny are bs until that fact no longer exists. And since it was proven quite true in 2000, 2006 and 2008 election cycles well... Its all just horse****.
Voting will do no good to restore our republic. Each time a democrat wins (and sometimes a republican) the line moves to the left. It is never undone by a conservative. It just continues to move left, and there is nothing short of starting over that can right that.
 

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yeah, thats right. ***** and moan all day about criminals on the hill, but legitimize an idiot firing a weapon into the office of an elected official.

He must be a patriot for sure. /sarcasmoff
Please, don't be absurd, if you want to coddle the criminals in DC that's your prerogative but you should take another tact other than simplistically accusing me of attempting to legitimize some angry azzhole with a gun and a vendetta if you expect to number me among their criminal ranks, lol.

Let me be clear here as if I wasn't already, lol. When elected officials behave as though they are above the law and their oaths of office as they have for decades, most recently by cramming liberty killing legislation straight up the azz of America, they are begging for trouble and consequently, need to quit whining when angry people start yelling, threatening, throwing bricks or shooting at them.

As far as I'm concerned, many of them have brought it upon themselves several times over and in some cases, even encouraged anger and retribution by being dismissive or ignoring the opposition so that they could utilize the opposition's anger in an attempt to completely illegitimize their oppositions grievances or as use that anger as a debate talking point or campaign fund raising tool later on as we have recently witnessed.

Furthermore, many in DC have not heeded the obvious warning signs to stop the rhetoric, deceit, unconstitutional spending and corruption and as a result, have garnered the attention of some pretty serious individuals who prefer the wild west to modern day judicial proceedings and big surprise DC, there are other crazies and criminals out there who, like you, have no respect for the law or the Constitution and oh yeah, they have guns but unlike you, are probably short in the influential friends department who will be able to make their criminal charges go away, lol.

I am well past giving a crap what happens to most of the azzholes on the Hill anyway and caring whether they live or die is not at the top of my list of things to do today, no more so than caring what happens to the average street thug, Wall Street weasel or Federal Reserve bankster who spends their time ripping off the average law abiding citizens.

When Representatives engage in criminal activity via their votes or lobbyist loyalties which unconstitutionally harms other citizens, they effectively enter the criminal underworld which sometimes has harsher consequences than the legitimate world and the moral here is, if you don't want to attract more than your fair share of vendetta driven azzholes and gangsters, quite unconstitutionally f*cking with other citizens.

Two wrongs certainly don't make a right, but I am having a really tough time picking sides between the shooters and the shootees in this case and it's akin to asking me to choose sides between the Bloods and the Crips, two groups who are well on the other side of righteousness and hardly law abiding citizens.

Cantor may be squeaky clean with regard to the unconstitutional health scare debacle but I suggest if he expects to quit being shot at by fellow gangsters, he stops behaving like one and quits bailing out his bankster buddies and Wall Street wankers as well as ceasing his NeoCon agenda because he's not only pissing people off here in the U.S., but he has made plenty of enemies abroad as well, especially in the Israeli region and as he has learned recently, illegitimate and unconstitutional actions which harm others have serious consequences and the penalty isn't always handed down by a court of law.

Welcome to gangland Mr. Cantor, you and the rest of the criminals in DC as well as the criminal azzholes trying to kill you and although I hope you all get to settle this in a prison shower together some day, if any of you off each other before the criminal justice system catches up with you, I can't really say I will be disappointed.
 

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so what your saying then, is you don't mind if someone fires a gun randomly into an office?

You know the Marine Corps taught me a lot of things, one of which is simple. Know your target. One shot, one kill.
Firing randomly into an office is bull****. You may not like the way someone votes, but it doesn't give you the right to shoot them. It certainly doesn't give you the right to shoot randomly into an office. Other people work there too.
I've got a little video of most of the misses in Iraq that hit women and children.......I don't think anyone has a right to do that.....or that your stomach can take the video.

Spare us on any rights to shoot anyone....it doesn't exist. Buy-out the best-dumbest and kill the rest?
 

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Please, don't be absurd, if you want to coddle the criminals in DC that's your prerogative but you should take another tact other than simplistically accusing me of attempting to legitimize some angry azzhole with a gun and a vendetta if you expect to number me among their criminal ranks, lol.
Don't give yourself the credit of being lumped in with criminals. They at least attempted something. At best, you're a paper tiger.

You haven't made good on one issue you've stated you would do. You've been "pushed too far" for more than two years now in Off Topic.

You rail at the IRS but then pay what they say you owe?
Got a banned knife? You picked up one at a local shop I recall that wasn't even on the banned list-a list that hasn't even occurred.
How was your attendance at the Tea Parties? Oops-missed that one too.
Feel naked without carrying a gun?
Moved to Illinois where you can be with people of your race so you won't get shot by mistake?

You're a cheerleader in a checker's game; trying to stir up something that isn't there...

oh wait...lol
 

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Well, Rome is the historical example here. 1500 years, we've been around a bit over 200. Their empire was millions of miles wide, ours is 3000.

IE, we cannot ever do what they have done. So what did they do so well?


It turns out: their people had a voice.


Their judicial system was not based on intent, but action. "Hate-crimes" were non-existant. Murder is murder- that's all they saw.


If a father didn't leave his kids 25% in his will, his kids could take him before a judge. If the judge found his kids were incompetant and didn't deserve 25%, then the father's will stood. If the father was being unreasonable, the judge could determine his kids were entitled to 25%.


The whole point was that Roman law could be worked with. While some laws were set in stone (murder), others (25% to your kids) had some flexiblity, and people actually had a voice. It turns out, when people feel they have a voice: they're peaceful. Rome lasted 1500 years using this system.



Our founding fathers really put it best... The government should fear the people, not vice-versa.
Obama has awakened the silent majority monster. This monster sleeps through much. However if you poke him enough times, this moster gets pissed and bites the head off the person poking it...
 

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Geography... Not your strong point is it?

. Their empire was millions of miles wide, ours is 3000.
millions of miles wide? Their empire was larger than the circumference of earth then?


History either?


TexUs said:
It turns out: their people had a voice.
Rome had the Senate, but it was weak. In 44 BC when Julias Ceaser became defacto dictator the Senates power was all but gone. They existed but the people had no voice.


TexUs said:
Their judicial system was not based on intent, but action. "Hate-crimes" were non-existant. Murder is murder- that's all they saw.
Yes, Hate crime is an American creation, and a stupid one at that. Most crimes are hate crimes. Hey you got one!
 

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Now TexUs, unless you were going for total area in which case its an unfair distinction to compare area to simply miles across. At its height Rome had nearly 1.9 square miles of territory. However we currently have 3.7 million.



I know Im giving you a hard time, the millions of miles comments just made me laugh. A lot. I will have to look into your story about the 25% thing, I have never heard of anything like that. But in all seriousness, we have much more say with our election system, and our representatives have much more say in how government is run than the imperial senate during the days of the Ceasars. Its just not a fair comparison.
 
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