papojengo said:
anyone who says that bridgestone being a lighter tire is an advantage is completely missing the point of an all terrain tire and reason someone would want a set on a truck... bfg tires are heavier because they use multiple steel belts as opposed to a single wrapping. this creates stronger tread, not to mention longevity.
I'm saying lighter weight is an advantage, and I'm not missing the point. I had the BFG AT KO in the Stock Off Road size, LT285/70/17, and I agree they are in a different league than a passenger rated P285/70/17 Bridgestone AT Revo.
But for the off roading the majority of user do, the Bridgestone AT Revo is adequate. And with today's gas prices, 1 mpg difference can add up to some serious $ over the 3 to 5 years of owning the tire.
papojengo said:
they also have triguard protection which is 3 ply polyester carcass. other coompanies use 1 or 2 ply. 3 ply gives much stronger thicker sidewall and under tread support. bfg tires have an insanely thick sidewall, and very strong tread. this is the greatest advantage with an all terrain tire the thicker the sidewall, the better off you are with protection from puncture and dry rot.
They are not the only AT with 3-ply sidewalls, although it is commendable that they have this for their entire size offerings. Some such as Toyo ATs, only have 3-ply sidewalls available in select sizes, and even offer P-rated versions, so the consumer must know what they're picking.
papojengo said:
mpgs etcs shouldnt be a concern when picking a tire unless you intend to only drive on roads and have an all terrain tire soley for looks..
Some of us do not have the luxury, or the time to swap out rims for dedicated tires. I commute on mine, 99% of the time, but I off road too, sometimes harder than others. For me the advantages of a LT tire is worth the gas mileage hit. But some peoples' idea of off roading is slow speed stuff in an environment without anything that will puncture their sidewall. They can get away with a passenger tire like the Revo. MPG is an important advantage of of a lighter tire. This is obvious if you know how to use a calculator.
papojengo said:
i have bfg a/t kos ( winter rated ) on my k-5 blazer and with 6/32nds left these tires have been on my truck for 5 years / and im going to be breaking 70k on the clock soon. i have a set on my titan too, however only have 3k since mounting them. the bfg's are great tires with no flaw, they work well in sand, great in snow, great in deep water, and WELL ON ICE. best of all, the bfg is extremely agressive tread design with minimal noise in comparison to m/t baja.
I love the BFG AT KO, but they do have one flaw, IMO, and I've heard the same about their MT, (don't know about the new KM2), and that is they get very slick in the rain in their last 10K to 15K miles of treadlife. My Titan rear was all over the road even when I had 320 lbs. of sand in the bed. I guess I could have added more sand, but they'll be summer tires, next time I have a set of tires wear out at the beginning of the dry season.
Btw, this is at 35,000 miles. I rotate my tires, never burn off from stop signs, etc., but I drive extremely curvy roads, and it takes a toll. Everyone's situation is different, and 50K or 60k, or even 70K miles is probably normal for people that drive the freeway.
papojengo said:
you get what you pay for, bottom line. this tire is the stronger, more versatile, longer lasting, and better looking. to spend 700-750 on revos, you will need another set after 30-35k miles. if you buy bfg tires and take good care of them, you will definately see 70k+ spend the money on bfgs once or spend the money on bridgestone duelers 2-3x's
If with your driving style/conditions you can get 70K miles on a BFG AT KO, then I think you'd get 50k on a Revo. And, if you are getting 70K out of them, the Revo sounds like a better match for you. j/k Also, as I mention the KO's last 10K-15K miles are useless if you happen to reach that in the wet season.
Btw, here are some pics of my OEM
All-Season P-rated Rugged Trails, when they were almost bald ... for
some off roading a P-rated tire will work. I wouldn't try too much higher speed off roading with them though, or narrow trails with sharp rocks that could cut the side wall. It all depends on where and how you off road.
Btw, I believe a LT is a better tire for curvy roads, since they have a stiffer sidewall and don't roll under as much as a passenger rated tire.