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Clear greyish transmission fluid

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Checked my tranny fluid on my truck after I bought it. Didn't appear to have any color to it, and it was wiping brown on a white paper towel. The truck is a 2008 with 54000 miles on it.

I was planning on changing the fluid anyway since it was 8 years old, so I did some research on flushing the transmission and went ahead and did it.

If you're going to do a flush, grab a transmission funnel (funnel with a long hose attached), and some 3/8" or 1/4" hose enough to reach out past the front bumper from under the radiator. Two to three feet in length is good. You connect it to the nipple coming out of the bottom passenger side of the radiator. You have to disconnect the transmission hose that is there first to get to the nipple. (See photo below) I hung my trans funnel under the hood with a bungee cord and stuck the end of its hose into the transmission dipstick pipe. I duct taped the funnel hose and transmission dipstick pipe together to make sure the hose didn't pull out will I was filling. I took a five gallon bucket and filled it with 3 quarts of water and then marked a line inside of it, first by cutting it in with a utility knife, and then dumping the water out and painting a line on the cut. Then I put the hose I connected to the radiator nipple into the bucket and started the engine. I let it pump out enough fluid to reach the line and then shut it off. I used my remote car starter, you could have a friend help. I then put 3 quarts of new fluid into the transmission before I dumped the marked bucket into another non marked 5 gallon pail. You'll want a drain pan handy to hang the hose over when you're dumping the dirty fluid bucket since fluid will continue to drip after you shut the motor off. I repeated these steps until I flushed 15 quarts through.

The 3 quarts at a time process worked out well and when I was done the trans was only a half a quart lower than where I wanted it. The hose did fly out of the bucket and spray everywhere once, so my measurements did get messed up. Hold the hose down so it doesn't jump. I tried to error a little on the low side, because I didn't want to take the transmission hose off again, if I overfilled it. I chose 3 quarts at a time because the pan holds roughly 4 to 4 1/2 quarts so that gave me a little leeway, if I screwed up, I wouldn't run the transmission dry. Make sure you have at least one extra quart for topping off after you're done.

I didn't bother draining the transmission's oil pan first mostly because their is rust around the bolt that looks really bad and I'm concerned the pan may break/crack if I attempt to take the bolt out, this spring i'm gonna replace the pan and also clean the internal screen. If you are going to drain the pan, grab a new drain bolt gasket for it before doing so. I believe it uses the same copper washer gasket as the oil pan.

The fluid that first came out of the transmission was so brown it was almost black, it was the worst looking transmission fluid I have ever seen. The trans was shifting fine and no slipping, but since I did the service it has been shifting smooth as butter.

I used "Castrol Transmax import multi vehicle" transmission fluid. The factory fluid that was in my truck was "Nissan Matic J".

Edit: As dreep has pointed out below, later year Titans come with "Nissan Matic S" transmission fluid in them, do not use "Castrol Transmax import multi vehicle" in these trucks. My research and post from other forum users shows that the Castrol is a compatible substitute for Matic J applications and Matic J is listed on the back of the bottle. It does not list Matic S and I haven't read anything that would make me believe it is a usable substitute for Matic S. Also it will likely void your drive train warranty.

I also read on some other nissan forum that nissan uses a clear trans fluid in brand new vehicles as a way to tell if someone has messed with the tranny will it's still under warranty. I don't know how true that is, but after seeing my fluid I highly recommend changing yours if it is a clear greyish color on the dipstick.

Here is a excellent post written by "username" that I used to get me started on this project.

http://www.titantalk.com/forums/tit...21-writeup-diy-transmission-fluid-change.html

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Nice write-up, Mac! I like your fluid exchange method, since the majority of the fluid isn't drained when the pan is drained, and your approach seems pretty safe. Nice.

I've been an advocate of 30,000 mile fluid changes for many years, which Nissan also recommends for Titans for severe service (quoting from the 2014 Service Manual):

"If towing a trailer, using a car-top carrier, or driving on rough or muddy roads, change (not just inspect) oil at every 30,000 miles (48,000 km) or 24 months. Using automatic transmission fluid other than Genuine NISSAN Matic S ATF or Matic J ATF will cause deterioration in driveability [sic] and automatic transmission durability..." I think the "rough and muddy roads" describes what most of us do! Note that Nissan Matic S is spec'ed for newer model years.

Interestingly, for the same type of service, the manual recommends 20,000 mile changes of differential fluid. I didn't remember that one.

Thanks, Mac.
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Nice idea.
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"If towing a trailer, using a car-top carrier, or driving on rough or muddy roads, change (not just inspect) oil at every 30,000 miles (48,000 km) or 24 months. Using automatic transmission fluid other than Genuine NISSAN Matic S ATF or Matic J ATF will cause deterioration in driveability [sic] and automatic transmission durability..." I think the "rough and muddy roads" describes what most of us do! Note that Nissan Matic S is spec'ed for newer model years.

Interestingly, for the same type of service, the manual recommends 20,000 mile changes of differential fluid. I didn't remember that one.
Thanks for including this info straight from the manual Dreep. Anyone interested in doing this transmission flush will certainly find it handy. I edited my original post to include a note about the Matic S fluid used in later year trucks. I also don't remember seeing anything about the 20,000 mile gear oil change either, good info to know.
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What I did here I guess is technically considered a fluid exchange. Some people refer to it as a transmission flush (like me), but others contest that it is only a flush if you use an external machine that forces the fluid through, where if you use the transmissions own pump to pump out the old will adding new, it is considered a fluid exchange.

I actually went to my local dealer and asked how much for a transmission flush/fluid exchange, and they said they don't do them because Nissan does not recommend them. They offered to do a "drain and fill" where they just drain the pan and fill it back up for 119$ which I politely declined. A drain and fill will only change roughly 4 - 4 1/2 quarts of the 12 or so quarts of fluid in the transmission.

You're probably wondering why I went ahead with doing it myself if Nissan doesn't recommend it. I did because the process that I use here of disconnecting the transmission return line from the radiator is actually detailed in the service manual for the truck. So this was considered a safe way to change the fluid at one point. My guess is some non attentive techs lost track of what they were doing and wrecked a couple customer transmissions and that's why nissan said no more. It is imperative not to run the transmission dry when doing this because it may cause internal damage.
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You can run it out as long as you shut it down right away thereafter.....Won't hurt a thing.
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