Wish I posted here before I ordered that freekin hydraulic strut spring compressor. Oh well ... live and learn. Another tool that's gonna use up space for a looooong time. Thanks anyway bropep boys can do it or rent two spring compressors,,,, pep boys sounds better to me.
That's what I used ... Autozone rental ... the springs are too stiff the threads are actually getting "stripped". Can't compress enough to accomodate the "middle setting" of the Bilstein 5100. Although they're pretty close to the same height, the Moog coils are fatter and 8 coils versus 7 on the OE springs. The Autozone rental can compress the OE but not the Moogs.Autozone rents
I ordered this "2 5 Ton Auto Strut Coil Spring Compressor Hydraulic Tool HD Heavy Duty Auto Tool" from eBay after a frustrating day yesterday. Now my truck is sidelined till this gets deliveredI had the same problem with them as you are having. We tried the cheapo rental compressors and could barely get them on stock struts and I do mean barely, let alone 5100's on the middles setting. The next set I did we used a wall mounted compressor and it was a night and day difference. I also think that the moogs from rock auto are the equivalent to the pro4x springs giving them that beefier diameter and higher spring rate. I can't wait to hear the results with that hydraulic compressor and see the after install pics!
As osiris10012 said above ... your T would sit about 3" higher than stock because the stiffer/longer 08 4x4 springs WILL NOT SETTLE as low as the weaker/skinnier/shorter pre-08 springs when the jack is finally released. The other advantage to this is that there will be no CBC while maintaining full range of compression, all angles are almost stock & eliminates the use of spacers. From further research, another reason that your T will sit higher is because the Coil Bucket on pre-08 are welded a tad lower than the 08+s. If you use Bilstein 5100 shocks (since your shocks are shot anyway) and set them at middle setting or highest setting, you'll preload (consequentially get a rougher ride) the springs and will resist further settling down with the weight of the truck ... thus it will sit higher.Cool I might look into a set. I'm mostly wondering because my front shocks are about shot and I was looking at a set of 08 2wd factory
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There's so much i've learned these past few weeks researching the T's suspension. That's why the 08+ coil springs are a tad (0.5-1 inch maybe?) taller to compensate for the difference in CB location. Also Bilstein 5100s adjusted their shocks to accomodate the newer (08+) T's taller coil springs thus reducing the first setting from 0.5" to zero. Below are a comparison between my 04 4x4 LE (left) and Moog 08 4x4 (right)Thats some good info right there. I was not aware they adjusted the coilbucket.
Both are fully extended ... At least I tried to pull each piston outwards. I was surprised myself at the difference but aren't the Bilsteins supposed to be longer anyways ... or maybe ... were they designed for the newer 08+ models with the longer coil springs? Either way ... that will work for well me because that's what I'm after anyway ... Front lift without spacers.are they both fully extended? or compressed? i thought they made the new ones to match the stock ones.