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I've been told 2 different subs, so I'm trying to figure out which would be the best one to put in my King Cab.

I got alot of info on putting my Cadence Beast 12s under the seat...Im sure they would sound like total garbage tho because of the lack of air space for them to function :/ ... plus the box would stickout, def dont want this.

Anyways, here are the subs/setups that I've had suggested to me by shops/friends and the situations:

First off I'm using this Cadence Ultra Drive Z1200 Amp -


$1300 installed (I thought was over priced) - Also includes One "Upfiring" Box (Box alone was $189 !!!, nothing special about it), Pioneer AVHP-2300 DVD Unit/harness/wiring/installed/hooking up bypass for the dvd player exc and these subs :
(2) Rockford Fosgate 10" Punch P3SD410 - 300 rms...I really want something more than that, but Ive heard they are good and heard alot of ppl dont like them, so are these any good?

$900 Installed - 2 Seperate Individual Boxes underneath each seat, bypass for the dvd player, but he said he would have to install a toggle switch for the bypass, that normal????
(2) Audiobanh 12" 1204J - Says theyre 500 rms but the box at the shop said 300 rms...anybody know if these are anygood...the dude basically worshipped them :lol:

Also, besides Tech12Volt, what box is the best for these subs...I dont want to just buy an everyday box or one that a shop suggests will sound good, just to sale it.

Im trying to keep in mind that every audio shop is different and sale different speakers, thus making different profits, so obviously they'll pitch what they can make the most money off of, but I'm looking for ssmething that will have alot of beat to it, but nothing over 1200 RMS.

Opinions/suggestions please, thank you !
 

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I can tell you right now you can do better than any shop could. Audio shops are there to take your money so they will sell you what ever they can. Sure it might sound good but will be WAY over priced. When I was 15 I got my first shop installed system. Kenwood sub and a koiler amp. It cost $550 and sucked.
What are the specs of the amp you have? Do you have any other stuff that will be installed? This will hepl piece together a system for you. Oh and what for price range?
 

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I looked for the specs on Cadence website for this amp, but I couldnt find anything on it except this [PDF Amp Guide - Page 15, but it's at least an 03 Model tho because I had it back in High School LOL, but I know that it wouldnt have any problems pushing anything I could fit in the Titan.

I do need to figure out what the best setup would be tho, because I need to purchase /install the Pioneer AVH P2300 and the truck is stock so I have to get all wires ran/hooked up and everything installed.

Hoping I can find something that would give me alot of bass, but nothing just ridiculious like my 2 Beast 12's were....I'd like to be around 140 dbs or so, maybe a little more, just as long as it sounds good.

I'd like to find 2 good subs that are about 500 - 600 rms a piece and that would sound good, but also with the right box for them.

I know shops sale whatever they can and jackup the prices, I just went around and got quotes to give me an idea, because Im completely brand new to truck audio, so I dont know what would sound good.

I have no idea what those P3's or those Audiobahns would sound like, cuz Im a complete novice when it comes to truck subs lol.
 

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Like 07 Titan said do it yourself. I just installed a sub amp and wrapped a box in carpet. All for 150 carpet a line out converter installed at bestbuy included. So the only thing I didn't do is the loc. Which cost 30 dollars lol. My amp is only 800 watts and the one 10 I have with it hits hard in my crew cab. The box was built by 07 titan actually lol
 

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Nice! Do you happen to have pics of the install?

I've never installed anything myself, I've always watched my friends do it and had shops do it for me...I SUCK at wiring and Im afraid I'll completely screw something up haha.
 

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yea its the z1200
 

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The P3 Shallows are a good choice, IF you were limited in space. Your KC has more room to fit larger subs, Ive built a sub box for my Bro using 2 P3S 10's ported. They sound good, just not that hard hitting bass youd expect, the lows from those subs arent the best either.


As for A-bahn :lol: :bangit:
 

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Yeah lets get some pictures honda?
 

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The P3s only go down to 45hz for the low, that sucks. you want closer to 30. Look at sensativity levels also. The RFs are normaly 170ish dollars. Thats way too much for what those are. I would say none of those setups. Alpine type r go low, and so do kicker comp VRs.

When looking at subs look at the low frequency level. if its only 45, most mids can do that well, there just small so they dont move the air. The high is worthless, you will have the crossover cut out between 60 and 80 hz so it doesnt need to be any higher than that.

Not sure why you would need a toggle switch. All a switch does is connect the 2 wires, in theory. Maybe there is a reason you would need to have it disconnected. I always hear good things about JL subs too, but i havent ever had any.
 
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Yea I havent shopped for subs in many years, but I remember back in HS when someone would get Audiobahn subs we'd all just laugh...they had a pretty horrible rep, but everybody had SUV's so it was hard to tell just how bad they were cuz there was so much air space.

Sooo I guess Im stuck on what subs I need since I got my verdict on the P3's as I def want alot of bass, just nothing too crazy, and I figured Audiobahn was still junk, so that cancels both of those subs out.

Now, what are the best shallow mount subs I can/should look at getting that will give me alot of good bass.

I really do appreciate the help guys, these shop ppl just sale u overpriced speakers to make a huge profit, but at the same time try and make it sound like they know what theyre talking about lol.
 

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I have had 2 12" Kicker CVTs and they sounded GREAT in the Titan. The CVR fits and sounds good too. For $68 at hifisoundconnection.com they cant be beat!
 

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i'll get pics tomorrow and start a thread.
 

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i go with what 07 TITAN said, kicker is my favorite audio company. I use there subs all the time just from the pics i showed you. And in my pictures i am running two 12" kicker cvr's, but there only 400 watts rms. But still sound great.
 
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I may be changing up my system in a couple weeks. If your interested it is a pair of 10" Kicker L7's in a Tech12volt FF box.
 

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I may be changing up my system in a couple weeks. If your interested it is a pair of 10" Kicker L7's in a Tech12volt FF box.
Not to thread hijack, but how do u like that system, sound? and was this in a cc or a kc? I have been thinking about switching my system up and running this exact thing!! So maybe we all could work out a deal somehow b/c i am running basically what he wants. two 12" kicker cvrs on a 1000 watt amp pushing 850 watts rms.
 

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Hmmmm Id be interested depending on price...that gives me a good idea, but how long have you had them tho and around how many db's do you think your doing?

Send me a pm with pics Id like to see what your setup looks like, too.
 

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Definately go with the Kicker subs, there are some CVT shallow mounts, one 12" or 2 10" would be great for the KC, if you have limited enclosure space, you can always add polyfil 1/2 full in the box to get that deeper bass your looking for.
 

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It is in a KC, bought the L7's new. It has been installed about 3 months, hits in the upper 130's to low 140's, no one around me has a meter. I have 2 Orion 225's on them pushing 400 watts to each sub.

I am talking to a guy with a ported RE set up i am going to get if we can set up a meeting, i will set a price after i see how much it would cost to ship, the box and subs are heavy.
 
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