[cnallick]

Anyone heard of or thought of converting thier Titan to Diesel?
I have access to a Dodge 5.9 24V. Cummins with 6 speed manual
They stuffed one into jeep JK
http://www.aev-conversions.com/news/2007/07/05/ultimate-adventure-59l-cummins-turbo-jk/

 

[cnallick]

Here's another link.
http://www.4wheeloffroad.com/projectbuild/131_0710_ua_2007_jeep_jk_wrangler_diesel_engine/index.html

 

[TitanBlue]

What are the HP/TQ ratings of the Cummins?

How do you think the Titan would handle the TQ and weight of the Diesel?

 

[cnallick]

Well I could put the Titan body on the Dodge frame or put the diesel motor and tranny in the Titan frame then straight axle the Titan. I'm leaning more torwards the Titan body on the Dodge frame then I'll have a true 3/4 ton truck. I love the Titan but really need a 3/4 ton and this seems like the only good option if I want to keep the Titan.

 

[Sammy Sandbag]

You'd have to cut out the fire-wall and fab a new one just to get it to fit, not to mention the wiring nightmare. That AEV conversion required a custom one-off harness and a whole heck of a lot of work. How bout just sell your Titan and buy a Dodge 2500.

 

[cnallick]

Thats just it I want the look of the Titan and its paid for, can get the Dodge for $5500 "cause its totaled" and it has 34K miles on it. The Titan just sits in the yard. I know it's gonna' be a heck of a job but I'm thinking real hard about it. I think I will only attempt this if I dont have to cut into the firewall. So I have to do some serious measuring and if it wont fit see how high I have to keep the body off the frame to clear the motor and not look ridiculous. If I use the Dodge frame then all I got to do is saddle the Titan body on weld a few body mounts and spend the next few months plumming the wiring and hoses. I know it's not going to be this easy!!

 

[Sammy Sandbag]

That straight 6 will not fit under the hood without some chopping. Even if you didn't have to do that, the wiring, pluming, steering, etc etc would be prohibitive. Those shops that put that JK together would have charged well over the cost of a brand new 2500 just for the labor and parts. Unless you've got a team of programmers willing to figure out how to make a Nissan BCM talk to a Dodge ECU, then I'd say you're sol.

 

[cnallick]

I see where your coming from Sammy. The more I research the more I find there are a lot of threads out there where guys are putting the cummins 5.9 in the newer fords but they are saying the computer is self contained and of course there are conversion kits avalible for this. I dont care if the ABS, or other dash lights and sensors work. I think the older 12v 5.9 is completely self contained as far as wiring goes no electronics. I work offshore and we have the 71 series detroits 3-V 71 and 12-V71 and there are no electronics as well as the Perkins and Cats. but there's no Bell housing adapter that I'm aware of for mating those things in a truck.

 

[partsguy]

your right about the older 12v being on its own. thats what i have a 94 12v. im just wondering why do you want to do it ?

 

[cnallick]

I guess I got an itch I need to scratch! No I just don't want to wait for Nissan to come out with the 3/4 ton truck and I have been debating a stright axle conversion in the Titan anyways. This way I get a 3/4 ton with dana 60 s', diesel, 6 speed manual, and all the goodies. I want to do it myself. I work offshore so I'm home three weeks at a time and get really bored. I got the welders and fab. tools as well as closed in shop. I'll have something original and get the Titan I really want. Don't get me wrong I love the new Dodge 2500 mega cab, but I love my Titan more.

 

[cnallick]

My wife's cousin started all this. He's and Engineer for Cummins in Columbus, Indiana. He is saying the best way to do what I want is to put the Titan body on the 3/4 frame becouse the Titan frame probobly can't handle the torque. He is going to do the wiring to keep the Cummins computer running and plumb the fuel hoses. I have to do the saddling the body to the frame. I just need to decide if I want the 24V 5.9L or the older 12V 5.9L.

 

[roy365]

Do you ever just open your wallet while offshore and dump your money in the water???? Seems comparitive to this swap to me. Unless you are just in it for the fame and glory of being the first to do it, i just cant see spending all the time and money doing this conversion. Your truck is sweet.......but then again it is YOUR truck, so have fun!!!!!!!

 

[cnallick]

I'm NOT rich by any means. I think if I do this myself "with my wife's cousin" I can do it for under $15K and thats with the doner truck included. Then again maybe I can sell my motor, tranny, rear axle, and lift on e-bay to get some of the money!!! Thanks for you guys input!!!

 

[TitanBlue]

Yes. you really could sell the VK Motor and trans. It would be an easy sell.

Sounds like we will be seeing a 2500 with Titan body coming soon. If you want to do it, go ahead. It's not like the rest of us aren't crazy too. Why do we do the things we do? Because we just want to, sometimes that is enough.

Looks like you have some solid resources in personnel, shop equipment, and abilities. So, I say go for it.

 

[kman]

go for it man, and good luck!

Most anyone can chop and cut, its bringing the electronics, fuel management etc.. together that is most critical, and thats where your wifes cousin comes in, he is your ace in the whole!!

keep us posted on your progress!

 

[QShip]

I say go for it!!

 

[Fox Delta]

shoot yeah man... GO FOR IT!! I would love to see this.... I had all of my financing and everything set for a Dodge 2500 laramie 4x4 Megacab, then backed out at the last nano-second - so yeah I'm right there with you!

 

[gringo88]

You're going to making one hell of a commitment! I've only done one engine swap, from a 6 to a v8. There were lots of unexpected problems that cost me more than I was planning along the way. Maybe I just don't have enough ******* blood in me :jester: I've got neighbors doing all kinds of crazy stuff like this. Anyway, I hope it works out for you.

 

[Shane06fl]

I understand your itch but think about this way. You can get $20k for your truck easily right, maybe more. You think it will cost you $15K for a swap over right. Well that is $35K + in your pocket right now that your ready piss away. BUY a 2500 Dodge and be done with it. I know you want the Titan look but adding a cummins and a Dana 60 set of axles isn't turning a short wheel base truck in to a 3/4 ton truck. The frame will not handle it, your electronics will suffer and you will have screwed up perfectly good Titan and pissed away $35 grand. I bet you have a pretty penny invested in the Titan all ready with all those cool mods.

But other than that, GO FOR IT!!

 

[cnallick]

Well I have to put it on hold for a little while at least "wife want's a bigger house". So I don't want to start the project then have to move in the middle of it. But still kickin' the idea around a bit! Still doing some research on the Cummin's.