[Primitive]

Hi guys,

I'm new here, been reading alot about the maximum payload on older Titans. I have a 2004 crew cab 4x2, standard bed. It has leaf springs. I know based on this forum the titans have been used to haul up to 2000lbs by a few for short distance.

My sticker says GVWR 6400, so if a Titan weighs up to 5000lbs, that leaves about 1400 for payload, which is a little less than what I need. I do custom concrete work and I need to transport bulk bags of pre-mix (1000lbs each bag, or 1/3 cubic yard). If I can safely transport 2 bags it saves me alot of time, which inherently saves me money.

I read that the suspension can be modified to make this task easier and less risky.

What would be the easiest route? I saw online they sell 2000lb helper leaf springs that they say you can bolt on. Are there any other methods? 6

 

[Lee-the-Impaler]

in the bed? Until my removal of a second toolbox and diesel tank, I ran dry with an extra 800# in the bed, and no notice except a bit of sag. Seems to me, though, if you're hauling 2K in mix, you need a trailer, then you can haul more than 2. In a pinch, I think you'd be fine, but it just makes no sense, crew cabs don't have that much bed, and that's higher to lift it. You need a trailer, or a heavier truck.

 

[Indy]

From what I've seen, the spring mounts will break before the springs, so helpers will not increase you any. Best you can do is air bags as they at least attach between the frame and axle taking some of the load off the springs and mounts.

That said, I agree with Lee that a trailer is a far better and safer route to go. Over doing payload is what gets you in trouble, far more than exceeding towing capacity. Nothing ruins your day like breaking a set of springs when you are already limping the load along, I know, done that one with my old 78 3/4 ton Chevy towing farm equipment with way to heavy of tongue weight.

 

[Lee-the-Impaler]

From what I've seen, the spring mounts will break before the springs, so helpers will not increase you any. Best you can do is air bags as they at least attach between the frame and axle taking some of the load off the springs and mounts.

That said, I agree with Lee that a trailer is a far better and safer route to go. Over doing payload is what gets you in trouble, far more than exceeding towing capacity. Nothing ruins your day like breaking a set of springs when you are already limping the load along, I know, done that one with my old 78 3/4 ton Chevy towing farm equipment with way to heavy of tongue weight.

And no matter what you do to the suspension, The Titan has a semi-floating rear end, which means that your axles take load as well as torque. It's a good way to tear up bearings

 

[kaipo13]

I once carried a full tote of some chemical about 10 miles when the freight company was being a PIA - probably about 2300-2400 lbs. My rear end was sagging like a SOB... I drove slow and all went well. Wouldn't do it again, and I ended up putting Hellwig helper springs it it because of my disappointment in how it handled the load.

 

[HRTKD]

I'm one of those forum members with a broken leaf spring bracket. It was likely caused by pulling a trailer with a tongue weight of 1,400 lbs.

As said by others, get a trailer.

 

[4mula1fan]

Easiest way to safely mod suspension to allow 2000lb payload? 2004 titan


You can't. It's just that simple. You can't.