troy, i was on the way home from getting the magna flow muffler swap done when i talked with you yesterday. It is the 18" dual in single out (12258)and I had them dump it right before the axle. I love not seeing the exhaust tip. I had the magna flow cat back on my 05 it was alot louder than doing the swap. It sounds good just not what I expected. I don't recall if my 05 had 4 sets of cats or not, but the 11 does and that could be whats hushing it up!!! It has no drone at all tried every rpm range nothing..... and it sounds great at start up, sound the same as stock at idle and is maybe one notch louder at normal accel and growls nicely at wot. If i did it over I might have gone with the dynomax bullets. Had I not been used to the magnaflow cat back on the 05 (which used the same can) I might have been perfectly pleased:bangit: