F-150TT new technology or not

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nissanbyblood

Discussion Starter · Mar 24, 2011

Ok guys I have been wondering this for a few years now ever since the TT eco boost was first advertising for the new taurus. They were advertising the car with 365hp and 25ish mpg and clamining how wonderful it was that a v6 could get v8hp and retain v6 sedan gas mileage. And now we are seeing a "car" engine put into a truck and everyone drueling over it? I thought about writing this post b/c I read last night at work I read where dodge had a new v6 they were planning on putting into most of there vehicle lines and get rid of that trash 3.7L thats in my wifes moms liberty that is just a redesign of the old 3.9L that was in my POS dakota. Anyways they are talking of twin turboing this new Pentastar v6 DigitalCarGuy.com | Thomas Ieracitano Your DigitalCarGuy | Internet Sales and Marketing to keep up with the joneses(FORD).

I can see how a TT ranger/dakata/colrado sport truck would be cool but it seems wierd to put a car motor into a truck ment for hauling, pulling... So I guess the economy shut out the dreams for half ton diesel trucks which is why I'm not driving one atm, I don't need or can justify a 3/4ton personally. Unlike someone I know who bought a cummins for hauling off the trash in, after owning a half ton for years and never sliding a reciever in it he buys a oil burner ment for 12K-15K. To each their own and not meaning to write a book but the whole purpose of this post was to ask a certain question.

What about the new eco boost is so much more "technologically advanced" than the 3.0TT nissan motor thats sitting on my porch that gets 25mpg in the Z and makes 310hp bone stock? Toyota also had a motor about the same mpg and hp in the turbo supra. Ford gets all this credit for putting a motor of the similar fashion into a tarus & half ton. 21 years later! and they gain 30-40hp? :clap::clap::clap:

These motors were made in 1990 and put into these cars when detroit was making "fox bodys","Trans ams/cameros" making near the same hp with less mpg.

So when I hear all these people drueling over this "new" idea of TTing a motor excuse me for not getting hard in the pants. Seems to me like 21 years of R&D someone would come up with something a little better than this "new" idea that will be the upcomming thing for the big 3 to do to their half tons to make people run out and buy them.

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VK56DEHAN

· #2 · Mar 24, 2011

i have to agree with u. like i said in another post and got nailed for it, companies are starting to loose their roots imo. with people wanting more power but better mpg is starting to make companies do odd things with their trucks like hybrid systems and TT gas motors. i find it all interesting and **** but at the same time nothing can really replace the grunt, feel, and history of a V8 in a truck.

you talk about throwing a car motor in a truck (i beleive in the attempt to diss the f150 lol) were as motor is a motor. the tune and programing is what determines what it goes in. the VK is in Infinity cars(dont know the model/s)...so does that mean we have a car motor as well? GM used the 5.7 in some of their cars as well as the 4.3...what about them.

i think the big deal with the eco tech is that they simply put it in the f150. which i believe is the first time that TT or single for that matter has gone in a truck (syclone doesnt count). not to mention able to run on 87 octane.

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nissanbyblood

Discussion Starter · #3 · Mar 24, 2011

Not a Ford fan but not trying to diss. I think its more along the lines of heads, vavles, tune, gears and trans that all make a difference from lets say a 3.5 350z motor and a 4.0 frontier motor. Just on a tangent sorry

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VK56DEHAN

· #4 · Mar 24, 2011

i was just messin with you, im not much a ford fan either...dont much care for their general layouts at all. you could include heads and things like that but do you see my point? gearing and transmissions arent part of an engine, but yes that is were a truck really differs from a car with a same/similar engines. but like i said, for the most part i do agree with you. its good for ford though recieving so much credit....even though they really dont need it.

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miketan

· #5 · Mar 26, 2011 (Edited)

Eventually, someone needed to come out with a fullsized truck with a small turbocharged gasoline engine and Ford just happened to get there first. I was expecting the small V8 diesels to make their debut, especially the 4.5L Duramax V8 from GM, but that was put on indefinite hold when they filed for bankruptcy. I like the idea of a small turbocharged gasoline engine in a truck though. The Syclone and Typhoon were niche vehicles in a specialized market. It's about time they started putting small displacement turbocharged engines in mainstream PU trucks. They have the big turbo diesels, but not everyone needs 800ft lbs of torque with the added expensive of buying/maintaining a diesel.

The newly redesigned 1990 300ZX was certainly an impressive machine when it first came out. Even today, the numbers are very respectable. A TT 3.0L V6 pumping out a incredible "300hp" when 250hp was still respectable in the L98 Corvette. Imagine if Nissan put that engine in a limited edition hardbody? Or, in a special edition Maxima? Yikes! Unfortuntately, this was the time when Nissan began to price the 300ZX out of its own market. The car was definitely much more capable and faster than before, but it came at the expense of a huge price increase that kept getting higher and higher. As the '90's progressed, it got to the point where it was priced out of its own market and then sales collapsed. We had to wait 7 long model years before the cheaper and lower performing replacement, the 350Z, came out.

What makes the Ecoboost in the F-150 so impressive, is the whole idea behind it. Sticking a small turbocharged V6 car engine in a big PU that can tow like the gas guzzling monster V8's and still get respectable fuel economy while doing it. It's the idea because the truck market is ultra conservative when it comes to changes like this. I hope Ford is very successful with this engine because it will force the other manufacturers (like Nissan) to offer their own turbocharged gasoline engines into their truck lines. I wouldn't mind cruising around in a 400hp TT 4.0L V6 Titan that does low 14's in the 1/4 mile and gets 25mpg. That would be cool.

Don't knock the Ecoboost. Ford is doing the same thing Nissan did when the Titan first debuted back in '04. They're setting the new standard for fullsized PU's.

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nissanbyblood

Discussion Starter · #6 · Mar 27, 2011

miketan said:
I hope Ford is very successful with this engine because it will force the other manufacturers (like Nissan) to offer their own turbocharged gasoline engines into their truck lines. I wouldn't mind cruising around in a 400hp TT 4.0L V6 Titan that does low 14's in the 1/4 mile and gets 25mpg. That would be cool.

Don't knock the Ecoboost. Ford is doing the same thing Nissan did when the Titan first debuted back in '04. They're setting the new standard for fullsized PU's.

I'm not knocking them for making the eco boost I'm kind of knocking the hype a little. So much hype went into the tarus about it basically being the first of its breed, when it obviously wasnt. Personally I'm glad as well that there is a change of pace in the 1/2 ton market. As I waited till last year to buy my truck to make sure the 4.5 d max wasn't going to be produced. However you will never catch me in a ford of any kind and probably not a domestic either for that matter but I hope the idea is successful not especially ford but th change of pace. The 4.0TT would be sick but on the other hand not for 1/4 mile time because how many people buy a 5-6,000 pound truck to take to the track? Im very anxious to see what happens in 2014 and this TT thing may be a new fad by then. I can't ever see me buying a first year truck but I hope there are some drivetrain changes.

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ClashOfTheTundra

· #7 · Mar 27, 2011

Its just a twin turbo engine nothing new. See how it holds up in 5yrs. Diesel is the way to go for mpg.

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