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Need some input from anyone who has some knowledge or has gone down this road. Installed a fabtech 6 inch kit on my 2009 4x4 SE. The kit came off a friend's 06 4x4 SE. Threw a few extra items into the build..bilstein 5100s lowest perch up front and bilsteins on the rear as well. Also added in PRG UCAs, driveshaft spacer, and extended sway bar end links. The lift is done..truck just needs an alignment. We noticed the rear sits noticeably lower than the front. We opted not to install the add a leaf that came with the kit because it's apparently junk according to PRG Greg and many others. The kit comes with a big rear block...4 inches to be exact, and I'd say it's pretty far off. Would leaving that add a lead that came with the kit out cause that much of a difference? Would Greg's C30 deaver springs bring it level? Is that even possible to do with a 4 inch block? Looking for any input on how to bring that rear up more.



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When I did my lift as you can see from my sig... I had the same problem as you're in. Because I didn't want the rake look... Here's what it looked like for example:


I forgot what the measurements were but it wasn't level. I than went with the PRG Deaver C-30's to give me 2.5" of lift.


Well after the install the back end sat a little too high. Probably about an inch from being level. So I went and ordered Crown Suspension adjustable shackles.



now it sits level


Now keep in mind if you raise the rear more I'm pretty positive those 5100's will need to replaced with the 5125's
 

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Need some input from anyone who has some knowledge or has gone down this road. Installed a fabtech 6 inch kit on my 2009 4x4 SE. The kit came off a friend's 06 4x4 SE. Threw a few extra items into the build..bilstein 5100s lowest perch up front and bilsteins on the rear as well. Also added in PRG UCAs, driveshaft spacer, and extended sway bar end links. The lift is done..truck just needs an alignment. We noticed the rear sits noticeably lower than the front. We opted not to install the add a leaf that came with the kit because it's apparently junk according to PRG Greg and many others. The kit comes with a big rear block...4 inches to be exact, and I'd say it's pretty far off. Would leaving that add a lead that came with the kit out cause that much of a difference? Would Greg's C30 deaver springs bring it level? Is that even possible to do with a 4 inch block? Looking for any input on how to bring that rear up more.



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to answer you initial question, yes not adding the adda leaf is the difference in height. so you`ll need to look for another way to increase the rear.


as far as that being junk, couldnt tell ya, I`ve never had any issues with Fabtech products and I find their design to be superior over others. the welds are flawless.
just remember tho, opinions of others are`nt always the case... do what works for you...

whereabouts in NC?
 

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Instead of costly rear Bilstein 5125's also look into early 2000 dodge truck rear shocks and replacement shock eye bushings as a lower cost alternative. Oreilly.com has extended and compress length as well as bushing bolt mount ID dimensions.

Again I had to press out one end and replace bushings with energy suspension bushings.

The shocks came from a comparable weight full size dodge truck and have worked great.

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Clarification on the shocks..front shocks are 5100s, rear shocks are 5125s. Spent some time on the phone with Greg explaining this Frankenstein project and he helped me pull together what I needed. So if I got the PRG deaver route, I should be clear on the rear shocks.


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to answer you initial question, yes not adding the adda leaf is the difference in height. so you`ll need to look for another way to increase the rear.


as far as that being junk, couldnt tell ya, I`ve never had any issues with Fabtech products and I find their design to be superior over others. the welds are flawless.
just remember tho, opinions of others are`nt always the case... do what works for you...

whereabouts in NC?


Located just outside Mooresville in an area called Mount Ulla. Kind of between Statesville, Salisbury, and Charlotte.


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Located just outside Mooresville in an area called Mount Ulla. Kind of between Statesville, Salisbury, and Charlotte.


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if you decided to put your Titan on the dyno, go see SoHo Motorsports in Monroe! I`ll be making the 4hr trip back there again, when I finish up a few more mods.

I`m well east of you by Seymore Johnson.
 

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Quick update..got the truck aligned and was told its now level. I didn't take it there myself to hear the details but was told that the camber was "cranked way up". Now Im not suspension expert by any means, but what component would cause that? Was also told the PRG upper arms were a major pain to work with. They had to completely remove them for every adjustment and put them back on. Anyone else ever get negative feed back like that in regard to a heim uniball upper arm? Anyways..I'll post up some photos later once I get home and see it in person.
 

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Fabtech 6" installed. Rear is much lower. Need input.

Quick update..got the truck aligned and was told its now level. I didn't take it there myself to hear the details but was told that the camber was "cranked way up". Now Im not suspension expert by any means, but what component would cause that? Was also told the PRG upper arms were a major pain to work with. They had to completely remove them for every adjustment and put them back on. Anyone else ever get negative feed back like that in regard to a heim uniball upper arm? Anyways..I'll post up some photos later once I get home and see it in person.

When my Nissan dealership installed my PRG UCA's they never had an issue an just commented on the quality of them.
Other then a little screwing around with getting them to line with the bold holes. My truck must have been made on a Monday/Friday ha
 

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Quick update..got the truck aligned and was told its now level. I didn't take it there myself to hear the details but was told that the camber was "cranked way up". Now Im not suspension expert by any means, but what component would cause that? Was also told the PRG upper arms were a major pain to work with. They had to completely remove them for every adjustment and put them back on. Anyone else ever get negative feed back like that in regard to a heim uniball upper arm? Anyways..I'll post up some photos later once I get home and see it in person.
for the lower control arms, you install them without them being tightened then you set the weight of the truck down on the tires and it settles, then you tighten them. the OEM bushings won't allow the truck to settle if the camber bolts are already tightened when the truck is on the lift/no weight on the front end. Its just the way those OEM bushings work.


the PRG arms use heims that screw into the arm, so in order to adjust, you have to remove the arm and screw the heim in or out depending on what needs to be changed.
 

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Here's the photo. Looks and rides great. I think it looks pretty level myself compared to the original photo. Time for some 35x12.50s



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Here's the photo. Looks and rides great. I think it looks pretty level myself compared to the original photo. Time for some 35x12.50s



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Is this with the 4" block installed?
 

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Fabtech 6" installed. Rear is much lower. Need input.

Have you had your drive shalf hit the floor yet?
I had really bad axle wrap when they added the three inch block to the C30's while my trac bars were off getting new hiems
 

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Re: Fabtech 6" installed. Rear is much lower. Need input.

Have you had your drive shalf hit the floor yet?
I had really bad axle wrap when they added the three inch block to the C30's while my trac bars were off getting new hiems
Haven't even driven quite 10 miles yet with it all installed..so no, no issues with the drive shaft so far. I'm sure there's some wrap and I do plan to get traction bars down the road to fix that. I do have a PRG driveshaft spacer installed to help with the geometry a bit.
 
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