well the guy would't budge from the original 500$ ;-( but I did end up buying them anyways, as this is still a good deal for these tires, I don't know if there is a difference between the goodyear wrangler LT and the goodyear wrangler SR-A but that is what they actlually are, SR-A with and E raiting, and I put a tread depth reader on them today and all 4 read 12 ;-) so I guess he wasn't lieing when he said less than 1000 miles, someone today told me that that is what most read out of the factory is that correct? called my tire guy and am going to have them put on monday for 50$ cash LOL so I can get the Blizzaks off, they are reading 10 now