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The dealer is trying to sell me a "fuel induction service". Does anyone know what this is? Can I get the same results with a bottle of injector cleaner?
 

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I had this done on my '95 F-150 but it had about 130,000 miles on it. There was a noticable difference in how it performed. It was not cheap. And NO, you will not get the same out of a $3.00 bottle of fuel injector cleaner. It's not the same thing. Not even close.

That said, I wouldn't recommend this on a vehicle with low mileage. It helps clean up the carbon buildup on an older vehicle, but depending on your current mileage, it could just be a money maker for them.
 

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Thats kinda what I was thinking. Thanks BB.
 

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I agree with BlkBty... I had this done to my '02 Tundra, 136k miles, right before parting with it to my Pops... (due to my acquiring the new Titan and he needed a truck for the ranch) The place that did it charged me around $50, took a half hour, and I was very impressed with the results. I drove out of the place, turned down the street and gave her a little gas... she accelerated like a champ, so... at the next light, WOT'd and holy smackers! She ran like brand new, breaking traction and screeching them tires for a few yards... I am probably going to get this done around the 75k range on my Titan...
 

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the differance between the two are, the 3.00 bottle gets deluted in the fuel and takes for ever to go threw in u wont notic a differance. the other from the dealer is a direct hook up to the fuel line in the injector set and runs directly off the cleaner and dosent run off of any fuel at the time. it is a bigg diferance. and the kit also cleans the vacume ports also. well worth the money and time. i recomend u let them do it.
 

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I use the Lucas fuel system treatment at least once a month. It has no methanol or alcohol mixtures to throw a code or mess with the fuel system. I cant tell any differences but i feel good knowing i using good gas and treating my truck on a regular schedule will prevent a trip to the dealer in the long run.
 

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roy365 said:
I use the Lucas fuel system treatment at least once a month. It has no methanol or alcohol mixtures to throw a code or mess with the fuel system. I cant tell any differences but i feel good knowing i using good gas and treating my truck on a regular schedule will prevent a trip to the dealer in the long run.
lol yea why take it to a shop and spend over $100 when u can use Lucas works perfect on my truck and car
 

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the differance between the two are, the 3.00 bottle gets deluted in the fuel and takes for ever to go threw in u wont notic a differance. the other from the dealer is a direct hook up to the fuel line in the injector set and runs directly off the cleaner and dosent run off of any fuel at the time. it is a bigg diferance. and the kit also cleans the vacume ports also. well worth the money and time. i recomend u let them do it.
i agree. i would say it depends how much they are going to charge to have this done. i am looking to have it done when i reach 100k.
 

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Its the big part of the 45,000 mile service. I don't think it would be worth it until I get some more miles on her. They are charging the close to $200 for the service but my fuel mileage is not too bad so I was thinking that it could at least wait until I start seeing or feeling performance issues. Or am I off base on this??
 

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Interesting... neither "fuel injection cleaning" nor "induction cleaning" is shown as a regular activity in the service manual.

That said, you should be careful about putting anything other than fuel in the tank. There are some "cleaners" that will remove the coatings in the fuel injector nozzles, then you'll have to replace them. Not fun, and NOT cheap.

There are really two procedure done in the shop when you clean the fuel system. One is where you hook up a can of really hot stuff to the fuel rail and shoot that through; the other is using a gizmo that looks like an oversized Q-tip but it's saturated with a cleaner for cleaning the throttle body. This is a manual procedure, and it gets out all the goo that collects around the throttle plate and causes it to stick. You have to be careful not to screw up the MAS (sometimes called the MAF) sensor when you do this. Some techs remove the MAS when doing this procedure for this reason. But this second one you can do at home, just do it where there's good air circulation.

Would I recommend doing this as PM? ...Not really. Only go after it if you've got driveability issues or you're getting codes. This is the kind of stuff you have to do at about 80,000 miles, maybe longer, depending on how good the fuel in your area is.
 

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The only things I would do to my vehicle is clean the intake track, throttle body, and fuel rail by hand, replace the fuel filter and take the injectors to have them cleaned.

Injector cleaning involves cleaning the output side (pintle or ports) then flushing them with a solvent. This should never be done on a car however I believe allot of dealers and shops may do only the flush on the car and call it a fuel system cleaning.

The real injector service is usually $15 to $20 and injector includes pressure testing, balancing and new o-rings and seals.

You may not get the all same injectors back that you sent and that is a good thing because what they do is pressure and flow test each injector and swap any injectors you have that are not within a an extremely close range to the others flow ratings with one that is. Then they will use your old one to match someone else set.

I would not have the dealer touch my vehicles fuel system unless there was something wrong with it because they do not do a complete job. The work should be pretty simple for anyone that is somewhat mechanically inclined.
 

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Alot of dealers and auto repair shops use BG products. I use BG every 20k miles and it does clean the system.
 

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IMO, it's a waste of money.
 

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ecmeyla said:
Alot of dealers and auto repair shops use BG products. I use BG every 20k miles and it does clean the system.
We use only BG products when doing our fuel system services. I saw a news report that showed when they used a variety of different brands that only when they used the BG fuel service did it make a noticable change in gas milage and performance. The best stuff IMO.

Also in regards to one of the other posts, we DO A COMPLETE fuel system service at our dealership so if you think you've been had then don't take it to that dealership anymore. Simple as that.

On another post above I read that someone said to clean the throttle body with a swab. That's fine if you have an older vehicle that doesn't have a throttle position sensor. But if you go and mess with the throttle plate it will mess up the calibration of the sensor and you will have problems. We get many cars from Jiffy Lube and other fine quick lube shops that do not realize this and we end up having to replace the throttle body assembly. The best way to clean the throttle body would be to take it completely off and clean it from the back side. But if you do that you will need to re-learn the idle of the engine.

Just my 2 cents.
 

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But if you go and mess with the throttle plate it will mess up the calibration of the sensor and you will have problems.
I stand corrected, thank you. That works for GM, didn't realize it didn't apply for us. You just saved me (and others) a couple of bux and some serious messing around.
 

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Well a throttle body will run around $600.00, not including labor, if you have to replace one. Unless you get lucky and they replace it under warranty.
 

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I agree with BlkBty... I had this done to my '02 Tundra, 136k miles, right before parting with it to my Pops... (due to my acquiring the new Titan and he needed a truck for the ranch) The place that did it charged me around $50, took a half hour, and I was very impressed with the results. I drove out of the place, turned down the street and gave her a little gas... she accelerated like a champ, so... at the next light, WOT'd and holy smackers! She ran like brand new, breaking traction and screeching them tires for a few yards... I am probably going to get this done around the 75k range on my Titan...
I had a similar experience just a few minutes ago. I had my oil changed and bought the fuel injector service at my local Jiffy Lube. Driving home, I noticed how smoothly and quietly my Jeep was running. I believe it is more noticeable on my Jeep Grand Cherokee than when I had the same service done to my last car which was a Malibu made by Chevrolet. I wonder if the service is more effective or noticeable on SUV's in general vs. regular cars.
 

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We use only BG products when doing our fuel system services.



On another post above I read that someone said to clean the throttle body with a swab. That's fine if you have an older vehicle that doesn't have a throttle position sensor. But if you go and mess with the throttle plate it will mess up the calibration of the sensor and you will have problems. We get many cars from Jiffy Lube and other fine quick lube shops that do not realize this and we end up having to replace the throttle body assembly. The best way to clean the throttle body would be to take it completely off and clean it from the back side. But if you do that you will need to re-learn the idle of the engine.
I know this is an old post but very true.

1. BG products are great
2. Be careful on the throttle body,

I was replacing plugs on wife's Xterra ~ you have to take off the intake.
While off I scrubbed the throttlebody.
NEVER could get it to relearn and reset.
HAD to buy a new one - $600 from Nissan but luckily a remanf one from Amazon worked great for $150.
 
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