Good news for 2WD with 08+ 4x4 Springs

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madrock

Discussion Starter · May 27, 2011 (Edited)

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I picked up my 08+ 4x4 springs from forum member giimmelub and had them paired up with my Bilstein 5100's. I don't have experience fiddling with spring compressors, so I paid my friend that runs a shop to assemble them for me. My truck is dirty right now, so I won't have good pictures up until this Saturday.

Stock ground-to-fender height: 35" up front
08 springs with 5100 set to 1 ground-to-fender height: 40" up front

My 33" tires are pretty worn down, so I would be sitting at 40.5" easily if I had decent tread on my tires. I could probably run 1.5" spacer with minor coil bucket contact.

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desertruner09

· #2 · May 27, 2011

Nice! So I'd probably get about 39" to 39.5" up front with them set at "0". I think I might need to get me a set! BTW, how is the ride compared to your 5100's on the top setting with your stock springs?

Citadel

· #3 · May 27, 2011

So how is the ride with the highest setting? I really need to get my 5100s back on the truck.

madrock

Discussion Starter · #4 · May 27, 2011

desertruner09 said:
Nice! So I'd probably get about 39" to 39.5" up front with them set at "0". I think I might need to get me a set! BTW, how is the ride compared to your 5100's on the top setting with your stock springs?

It's not that noticable of a difference. The 4x2 springs I received with the Bilsteins were pretty worn down so it offset the preload created by the Bilsteins on the top setting. That setup was not stiff at all.

I test drove this setup for about 10 miles after I finished the install (and removed the sway bar after the install), and I liked it a lot. I think allowing the truck to work independently with the stiffer springs without the sway bar interfering helped.

Citadel said:
So how is the ride with the highest setting? I really need to get my 5100s back on the truck.

I actually have it on the middle setting, and I love it. It's not stiff at all.

Grizz7122

· #5 · May 27, 2011

great googly moogly, thats some lift from some shocks and springs; do you think that the height will go down as they break in?

omnipresent

· #6 · May 27, 2011

I just put the 08+ springs on my 4x2 kc with Bilstein HD's and its got quite a bit of positive camber..

desertruner09

· #7 · May 27, 2011

madrock said:
It's not that noticable of a difference. The 4x2 springs I received with the Bilsteins were pretty worn down so it offset the preload created by the Bilsteins on the top setting. That setup was not stiff at all.

I test drove this setup for about 10 miles after I finished the install (and removed the sway bar after the install), and I liked it a lot. I think allowing the truck to work independently with the stiffer springs without the sway bar interfering helped.

Good job taking the sway bar off, it helps a ton for ride quality. Just wondering, are you leveled now front to back? I know Nissan changed rear leafs on the 08's, but I don't know if the 08 2wd rear end sits higher?

omnipresent said:
I just put the 08+ springs on my 4x2 kc with Bilstein HD's and its got quite a bit of positive camber..

You need adjustable cam bolts and an alignment.

omnipresent

· #8 · May 27, 2011

desertruner09 said:
You need adjustable cam bolts and an alignment.

Thanks, I'd read I didn't in a prior post regarding small PRG lift... are the cam bolts only avail aftermarket? I don't want to mess up new tires waiting for proper parts

NorCal 4x4

· #9 · May 27, 2011 (Edited)

desertruner09 said:
Good job taking the sway bar off, it helps a ton for ride quality. Just wondering, are you leveled now front to back? I know Nissan changed rear leafs on the 08's, but I don't know if the 08 2wd rear end sits higher?

You need adjustable cam bolts and an alignment.

I'm guessing the OP does too ... madrock should be getting about 3" with that setup not 5". The middle setting gives 1.5" so that would be 3.5" from the coils. Sounds like the tires are on their edges.
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omnipresent

· #10 · May 27, 2011 (Edited)

Not to hijack this thread more than i have..but, where other than PRG can I buy these cam bolts for quick delivery? Are they a kit I can purchase at a local dealership?

NorCal 4x4

· #11 · May 27, 2011

Yes, Nissan also has them. '04's and maybe '05's came with them.

omnipresent

· #12 · May 27, 2011

Thanks NorCal -- sorry to OP for the mini-jack

honda250xtitan

· #13 · May 27, 2011

NorCal 4x4 said:
I'm guessing the OP does too ... madrock should be getting about 3" with that setup not 5". The middle setting gives 1.5" so that would be 3.5" from the coils. Sounds like the tires are on their edges.
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For some reason 2wd guys have been getting some crazy lift numbers from this set up

pictures!!!

omnipresent

· #14 · May 27, 2011

I was shocked when I saw the lift! Remember, these aren't even 5100s

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NorCal 4x4

· #15 · May 27, 2011

honda250xtitan said:
For some reason 2wd guys have been getting some crazy lift numbers from this set up

pictures!!!

Not 3.5". Even if they are Pro4x coils maybe 2". Since the truck's an '08, it didn't come with cam bolts, so the camber being off would explain it, and even Toe can cause this.

madrock, did you get it aligned? Did you buy cam bolts?

CVTitan05

· #16 · May 27, 2011

Good job takin the sway bar off! I took it off and im NEVER going back! So i have the bumper mount to the sway bar brackets :teethmast

madrock

Discussion Starter · #17 · May 27, 2011

:bump: Pics added to the original post. It was too dark last night, so I spent the time aiming my HID low and fogs :teethmast

desertruner09 said:
Good job taking the sway bar off, it helps a ton for ride quality. Just wondering, are you leveled now front to back? I know Nissan changed rear leafs on the 08's, but I don't know if the 08 2wd rear end sits higher?

You need adjustable cam bolts and an alignment.

My stock 08 sat exactly like my stock 06, which was 35" up front and 37.5" in the rear. I picked up some 1.5" blocks and Bilstein 5125 rear shocks from Mr Lee, but I kinda digging the stance as it is now.

NorCal 4x4 said:
I'm guessing the OP does too ... madrock should be getting about 3" with that setup not 5". The middle setting gives 1.5" so that would be 3.5" from the coils. Sounds like the tires are on their edges.
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NorCal 4x4 said:
Not 3.5". Even if they are Pro4x coils maybe 2". Since the truck's an '08, it didn't come with cam bolts, so the camber being off would explain it, and even Toe can cause this.

madrock, did you get it aligned? Did you buy cam bolts?

I posted a frontal pic on the original post. I have some positive camber, but it is nowhere near as bad as I thought it would be. I just installed the setup last night so I haven't had it aligned yet. I get my tax refund on June 3, so I'll get new shoes and the alignment done all at once.

Before I went forward with this setup, I talked to at least 3 different 2WD guys who all said they were sitting at around 39-39.5" (SuperTighty5.6 was the only one to have the Bilstein's set at 1. He sits at 40.5 with my exact setup).

I knew 4x2's were lighter, but to gain almost 4" is awesome :teethmast

SuperTighty5.6

· #18 · May 27, 2011

I have the same setup as madrock an got the same results. I'm sitting at 40.5" up front in my 07 2wd so I don't think its an alignment issue with how much lift he's getting

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AllTerrainTitan

· #19 · May 27, 2011

So bilsteins on the middle is 1.5"s of lift... and 4x4 springs are another 1" of lift?... which = 2.5"s of lift, how did you end up gaining 4-5 at the fender?

Truck looks great tho! Good work!

madrock

Discussion Starter · #20 · May 27, 2011

AllTerrainTitan said:
So bilsteins on the middle is 1.5"s of lift... and 4x4 springs are another 1" of lift?... which = 2.5"s of lift, how did you end up gaining 4-5 at the fender?

Truck looks great tho! Good work!

My guess is that the 2WD are a lot lighter and don't compress the stiff 4x4 springs as much.

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