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Looks sick!!! That 1.5 block gonna bring the rake back or will it level it? dont bring the rake back.
 

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Nice dude! Looks like the springs worked out for you. Just for everyone who is confised... The 08+ coils I put in were quite a bit taller and seemed stiffer than the stock 2wd coils. I've have 2 alignments since installing them, and the 3.5" I picked up were not because of the alignment, or the fact that they hadn't "settled" yet.

I think now that this much lift from just the 08+ coils is getting pretty well known I think they are going to start flying off the shelves!
 
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Looks sick!!! That 1.5 block gonna bring the rake back or will it level it? dont bring the rake back.
It has the forward rake going on, but it doesn't look bad at all. I'll get some better pics tomorrow. I'm kicking myself for dropping $145 on blocks and Bilstein rear shocks without trying this look first.

The wife doesn't care for the SoCal stance, but she likes this.
 

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Not 3.5". Even if they are Pro4x coils maybe 2". Since the truck's an '08, it didn't come with cam bolts, so the camber being off would explain it, and even Toe can cause this.

madrock, did you get it aligned? Did you buy cam bolts?
After giving it a little thought (hopefully I have it correct), I can see a 2wd getting 5". The 08 4x4 springs level an older 4x4 at 2" (1" due to a longer spring and 1" due to a stiffer spring). A stock 4x4 sits about an inch higher than a 2wd truck. So the 08 4x4 springs will lift a 2wd truck roughly 3" without taking into account the weight of the truck. Now, knowing that a 4x4 is a few hundred pounds heavier than 2wd (and all that weight is mostly in the front) then an extra 1" with the 5100's on the lowest setting seems pretty reasonable on a 2wd. So we're at 4" now. So 5" at the middle setting seems like it is possible. I don't know what will happen with the coil bucket contact situation with 5" of lift. Hopefully I didn't miss anything and have the numbers correct NorCal (I know you know your stuff).

We also can't forget that tires come into play since we're measuring ground to fender height. So if the tires were changed at any point between the before and after measurements, that will increase (or decrease) the amount of "lift" too. We should really be measuring center of hub to fender to take out the tire contribution.

At any rate, with this much lift, the 08 4x4 springs on a 2wd will be a hot ticket item for sure.
 

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the key thing about this lift is that it doesn't put you in the poor house :)
 

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Here are some pics I took today of the new lift with the DSLR camera. My driveway has a bit of an incline, so that makes the rear look a lot lower than it really is. I also snapped a couple pics of my stock UCA/coil bucket. I have not had any coil bucket contact with this setup, and I even punched it over some railroad tracks today. I wonder if I could sneak in a 1.5" spacer if I took a grinder to the lip?









 
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Here are some pics I took today of the new lift with the DSLR camera. My driveway has a bit of an incline, so that makes the rear look a lot lower than it really is. I also snapped a couple pics of my stock UCA/coil bucket. I have not had any coil bucket contact with this setup, and I even punched it over some railroad tracks today. I wonder if I could sneak in a 1.5" spacer if I took a grinder to the lip?
I think Citadel tried a 1.5" spacer and it basically sat on the coil bucket with his truck just sitting on the ground. But if your feeling lucky, go for it.
 
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so middle setting and 08 Pro-4x coils and you are all good with no contact, sounds like i know what im gonna be doing soon
 

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What about 08 springs, Bilstein HD's and 2.5" spacer? Anyone running this? Just something I considered trying out.
I tryed that and I was pretty much sitting on the CB.
 

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so middle setting and 08 Pro-4x coils and you are all good with no contact, sounds like i know what im gonna be doing soon
My temporary setup consist of the 2.5" PRG leveling kit, Bilstein HD's, Total Chaos UCA. and the stock '04 4x4 coils.

Since mine is a 4x4, a 2" leveling kit is recomended, but with an older 2wd, you should be able to run a 2.5" leveling kit with the stock UCA's and the Bilstein HD's. Adding the longer '08 4x4 coils will only add preload since you're sticking them into the same place as your current coils, and they will not lead to more coil bucket contact. The HD's are stock length struts, based upon the older model Titans. But since they only sell one model for the 2wd and 4x4, and if the OEM struts are a little different in length, that might give you a little contact, but you could grind the lips a little.

If you are going to drive it faster off road, (or like to hit speed bumps fast), you would be better off with a 2" leveling kit instead of a 2.5", or if yours is a 4x4, then a 1.5".
 

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My temporary setup consist of the 2.5" PRG leveling kit, Bilstein HD's, Total Chaos UCA. and the stock '04 4x4 coils.
Since mine is a 4x4, a 2" leveling kit is recomended, but with an older 2wd, you should be able to run a 2.5" leveling kit with the stock UCA's and the Bilstein HD's. Adding the longer '08 4x4 coils will only add preload since you're sticking them into the same place as your current coils, and they will not lead to more coil bucket contact. The HD's are stock length struts, based upon the older model Titans. But since they only sell one model for the 2wd and 4x4, and if the OEM struts are a little different in length, that might give you a little contact, but you could grind the lips a little.
So in your opinion Norcal, on a 04' 2wd truck, it should be safe to add 08 4x4 springs to my 2.5" mini lift and Bilstein HD's? Wouldn't hold you to it but value the opinion of someone that knows a lot more than I do about the subject. I looked and have about 2" between the UCA and CB sitting on a flat surface now. Thanks!
 

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I believe the 2.5" spacer will be too much for the stock UCA. 1.5" is what they recommend, and 2" is pushing it. It could work if you went the RC route with their UCA's.
 

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I believe the 2.5" spacer will be too much for the stock UCA. 1.5" is what they recommend, and 2" is pushing it. It could work if you went the RC route with their UCA's.
You are correct sir, as I said in my last post, I tried that with the 2.5" spacer and was pretty much resting on my coil buckets. If you have stock uca's it's not gonna work!
 

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You are correct sir, as I said in my last post, I tried that with the 2.5" spacer and was pretty much resting on my coil buckets. If you have stock uca's it's not gonna work!
OK well just thought I might get away with another inch or so without having to dump a bunch of cash into it. Thanks for the input.
 

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Yea it's too bad the spacer doesn't fit. I finally just sold mine
 

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Question for you guys. I have a Pgr mini lift with 2.5 blocks in the front and 5100's set at 0 with stock springs on my 08 2wd. I'm sitting at almost 39in's on the stock rims and tires. My question is can I set the 5100's at 1 with the stock springs or is that going to be to demanding on the shock? thanks for any help and sorry for the high jack.
 

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Question for you guys. I have a Pgr mini lift with 2.5 blocks in the front and 5100's set at 0 with stock springs on my 08 2wd. I'm sitting at almost 39in's on the stock rims and tires. My question is can I set the 5100's at 1 with the stock springs or is that going to be to demanding on the shock? thanks for any help and sorry for the high jack.
That should be fine, there are quite a few guys running them on the middle setting, and there are even a few guys running them on the very top. You should be ok!
 

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My temporary setup consist of the 2.5" PRG leveling kit, Bilstein HD's, Total Chaos UCA. and the stock '04 4x4 coils.
Since mine is a 4x4, a 2" leveling kit is recomended, but with an older 2wd, you should be able to run a 2.5" leveling kit with the stock UCA's and the Bilstein HD's. Adding the longer '08 4x4 coils will only add preload since you're sticking them into the same place as your current coils, and they will not lead to more coil bucket contact. The HD's are stock length struts, based upon the older model Titans. But since they only sell one model for the 2wd and 4x4, and if the OEM struts are a little different in length, that might give you a little contact, but you could grind the lips a little.
So in your opinion Norcal, on a 04' 2wd truck, it should be safe to add 08 4x4 springs to my 2.5" mini lift and Bilstein HD's? Wouldn't hold you to it but value the opinion of someone that knows a lot more than I do about the subject. I looked and have about 2" between the UCA and CB sitting on a flat surface now. Thanks!
If you take it easy with it, the 2.5 will probably be fine, but the coilbucket placement on the Titans can even vary from driver side to passenger side, so there's no guarantee. Based on mine, it should be fine, for the reasons I stated, but if you're the type that speeds up for speed bumps or off roads at heigher speed, the 2" might be a better choice.
I believe the 2.5" spacer will be too much for the stock UCA. 1.5" is what they recommend, and 2" is pushing it. It could work if you went the RC route with their UCA's.
The recomended PRG leveling kit is 2.5" for an '04 2wd. It is 2" for an '08 + 2wd with stock struts.
Btw, did you every get the alignment? Still at 5"?

You are correct sir, as I said in my last post, I tried that with the 2.5" spacer and was pretty much resting on my coil buckets. If you have stock uca's it's not gonna work!
What year is your Titan, and didn't you try this with the 5100's insted of the HD's?
 

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NorCal, When the only mod I had was the 2.5" spacer, it worked out just fine. When I installed the 08+ coils I had the clearance issue, because obv. it was like adding a 2.5" spacer on a 08+ 4x4. RADtitan is talking about adding the 2.5" spacer with 08+ coils as well, which is why I said he is going to have the clearance issues.
 
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