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Help me convince my friend, Titan over RAM!!

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My friend currently has a 03 Chevy 2500hd crew cab 4x4 with the 6.0.
Truck is used to haul a 4k plus trailer 5 days a week, and a 7k boat on the weekends.

The chevy has 130k and has been problem free. Does a great job ,but he just wants something new.

Hes leaning towards a 1500 Hemi Ram because they are now offering a lifetime warranty and better rebates than the Titan ,but he really likes the Titan as well.

I personally think he would be better off staying with a 3/4 ton truck ,but hes convinced he will get better fuel economy with the Dodge due to the MDS:rolleyes:

I also worry about the rearend on the Titan due to his frequent towing.
I told him some rear ends were suspect ,but he could get a Trutrac!

What do you guys think?
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Tell your buddy to look up the problems that many Ram owners have been having with the front ends of their trucks. A buddy of mine is ready to sell his because his and many other Rams have an inherent flaw in the front end design, and Dodge has refused to fix the issue under warranty because so many truck have been having problems, they would have to issue a recall for nearly every truck. I'm not sure what the design flaw is but I'm sure someone out there could fill you in on the details.

Also my boss used to be a sales manager at a dodge dealership, he said he spent more time dealing with heat from customers in the service dept. than he did in the sales office. (he also has front end issue with his 06 1500 Laramie/Big Horn), but luckily he leased his and is almost done with the lease.
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TallTexan
Get a diesel!
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If he's doing that much towing I have 2 words: Duramax/Allison.
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Walrus
Is the term Chrysler quality an oxymoron?
Is that convincing enough?
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Too bad he doesn't want to wait a little over a year from now and get a Dodge 1500 with the light duty Cummins.
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nmanley
alaska_titan said:
If he's doing that much towing I have 2 words: Duramax/Allison.
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Your bud is a fool to not take this guys advise. ;) I love the Dodge Cummings but they're trannies are know to be the weak link in that setup. EDIT check this post as this may have been addressed http://www.titantalk.com/forums/942485-post19.html
I've heard nothing but praise for the Allison and the Duramax ain't no sloutch.
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NorCal 4x4
The new Lifetime powertrain warranty from Dodge sounds good ... Oh wait, it doesn't apply to Diesel models. Oh, and requires an inspection every 5 years ... just about long enough to forget to do it in time ... or the dealer won't have a free slot on the appointment schedule for 4 weeks, and times up in 3 weeks. Lol
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DezertRunner823
NorCal 4x4 said:
The new Lifetime powertrain warranty from Dodge sounds good ... Oh wait, it doesn't apply to Diesel models. Oh, and requires an inspection every 5 years ... just about long enough to forget to do it in time ... or the dealer won't have a free slot on the appointment schedule for 4 weeks, and times up in 3 weeks. Lol
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hahaha!!! so true... didn't know it didn't apply to diesels... what a bummer!
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Justintoxicated
I would get a Diesel for a truck that will be pulling a trailer that much. My Dad has an 05 Dodge 3500, I heard the new ones have some kinda restrictors on the exhausts or something, but they do have a larger motor now. Not sure which is better. I have had alot more problem with my Titan than my dad has had with his 3500.

For my use I would not trade my titan for his dodge though (And yea I get to drive it) :p I love my titan. But having the right tool for the job is always key.
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alaska_titan said:
Tell your buddy to look up the problems that many Ram owners have been having with the front ends of their trucks. A buddy of mine is ready to sell his because his and many other Rams have an inherent flaw in the front end design, and Dodge has refused to fix the issue under warranty because so many truck have been having problems, they would have to issue a recall for nearly every truck. I'm not sure what the design flaw is but I'm sure someone out there could fill you in on the details.

Also my boss used to be a sales manager at a dodge dealership, he said he spent more time dealing with heat from customers in the service dept. than he did in the sales office. (he also has front end issue with his 06 1500 Laramie/Big Horn), but luckily he leased his and is almost done with the lease.
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http://www.daimlerchryslervehicleproblems.com/

I noticed a lot of the writeups are pre 2003.

Dodge RAM trucks also have common premature front end problems that can lead to loss of Steering control. Symptoms usually include excessive wandering, play in the Steering, vibration and wheel shimmy. DaimlerChrysler repurchased 35 state owned trucks due to front end problems. Although the Dodge RAM is marketed as a durable truck, a DaimlerChrysler spokesman blamed the road conditions. The founder of a Dodge Truck Steering Problems website had an accident while towing a trailer due to a failed Suspension component that was found "not durable enough". An aftermarket company even recognized the problem and has been manufacturing a better quality replacement for 1994-2001 Dodge RAM trucks. The founder of another website had a 2001 Dodge RAM 1500, which was eventually lemoned back and a 2002 Dodge RAM 1500 Lone Star Edition that also had serious front end problems. This issue could lead to an accident turning a RAM truck into a potential death trap. Both of these websites www.dodgetrucksteeringproblems.com and dodge-sucks.com have since been shut down for unknown reasons.
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Why even consider the Ram, the more powerfull Tundra gets better mileage then the Ram with MDS due to its more efficiant engine design and six speed tranny. The MDS won't work while towing either. I personnally like the Titans looks better then either of them and the Titan is the best bang for the buck hands down.
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The Tundra is probably closer to a 3/4 ton than the rest of the 1/2 tons out there and would be a strong tow vehicle.

A family member of my boss just bought a Tundra, crewmax?, 4x4, 5.7L, fully loaded and it was $50K!
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Gone2 said:
My co-worker has a Titan which has basically convinced everyone here not to buy a titan because it's always in the shop. It's in the shop as I type because the back glass is leaking when it rains and its getting its 3rd set of brakes. It's never the powertrain, just other little annoying things. ( I had an '01 xterra that was just like that, solid powertrain, everything else fell apart around it; always in the shop.)

He is now considering a ram, a lot due to the lifetime PT warranty. Dont compare the previous gen rams to the new ones. The new ones do not have tranny problems.
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He called and said that nissan called him and told him that they are replacing his rear axle, fearing it was going to go out. He only took it in for the back glass leaking and the latest brake fix.
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Blackbeauty
Convince him? Why? Just let him drive both trucks. That ought to make up his mind. That's why most of us have them.
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Arachnid
Nice call Blackbooty. I drove the big three, along with Toyota and Nissan twice before making my decision. The Titan was the best truck hands down.

Blackbeauty said:
Convince him? Why? Just let him drive both trucks. That ought to make up his mind. That's why most of us have them.
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He called and said that nissan called him and told him that they are replacing his rear axle, fearing it was going to go out. He only took it in for the back glass leaking and the latest brake fix.
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That's a great reason to want out of the Titan. The dealer is actually taking care of something without being asked or threatened.:rolleyes: That kind of service always sends me running the other way.:haveredfl :huh:
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Just let him get what he wants it's his money he's the one driving it. All you can do is give opinions the final decision is still his. He's a grown man let him chose what he wants. That way when the something goes wrong with his truck it's all on him.
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Jimmyjetsfan
The Titan is definitely superior to the Ram...around here we call Ram the dollar store version of trucks
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4mula1fan
I bet he made a decision 15 years ago. Lol
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