Help with an AT tire that is good in snow/ice

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cmfred0232

Discussion Starter · Oct 19, 2007 (Edited)

Need help deciding on what type of "all season" all-terrain tire I can put on my
Titan that excels in the heavy snow and ice yet is still smooth to drive on in the non-winter months. I live in Colorado and frequently visit the mountains during the winter and my stock Rugged Trails are not getting it done. Looking at the Tirerack reviews it appears Goodyear has an edge, but I have heard nothing but bad things about that tire. Comments and suggestions are greatly appreciated.

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Juday

· #2 · Oct 19, 2007

"BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO tires meet the industry's severe snow service requirements (and are branded with the mountain/snowflake symbol)" - http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=BFGoodrich&tireModel=All-Terrain+T/A+KO

I have yet to run mine in winter yet (I bought the truck used in May of this year), but they are a fantastic A/T tire. Very durable, tough construction that will last many miles (from what I understand from other members). Another option would be the Bridgestone Dueler A/T w/ Revo. My father ran these on his Silverado and they were also a great tire. Performed better when it rained than my BFG ATs, but I like the look and the performance of my tire much more than his. It all comes down to personal preference.

Talk to some of the site sponsers and see what their best recommendation would be. Also, how much money are you looking to spend? That is the greatest determining factor of what types of tires you can get. Best of luck to you and the choice that you make.:cheers:

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cmfred0232

Discussion Starter · #3 · Oct 19, 2007

My first thoughts were the BFG AT/KO's but haven't heard any real comments on how they performed in the snow ice besides the ratings that they are given. As far as price: it would be ideal to walk out the door under $1K. I appreciate the response.

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BayStateSuks

· #4 · Oct 19, 2007

The Bridgestone A/T Revos are also good in snow and ice. So much so that I can get away with 2WD almost all of the time. They also have a better road ride than the BFG A/T KO's. I believe the KO's would be better in pure snow and ice but probably louder on the road.

In terms of price, I got my four Revos from the Firestone dealer who gave me a buy 3 get 1 free deal. Each was $200 or $600 for all four. Plus another $100 or so to mount them.

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Yellomantis

· #5 · Oct 20, 2007

BFG a/t KO's hands down.I tool the titan up to big bear last winter a few times for some snowboarding, and the tires performed flawlessly! I was stopped at the checkpoint/chain station, the officer looked at my truck and tires, asked me if I was 4wd and let me pass, while everyone else was installing chains! The only time I was able to break them loose was on a road that was frozen over and I (purposely) gave it too much throttle.

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luvbelly

· #6 · Oct 20, 2007

I live in the north east and also deal with some extreme driving conditions in winter. I have not changed out the tires on my Titan but plan to soon. I had the BFG AT KO's on my last three trucks. It is one outstanding tire. While I have heard some state there are better riding AT tires, I never had any complaints with my BFG's. What I can tell you is they would tear up anything old man winter tossed my way. Sometimes it almost seemed like they were playing and wanting more of a challenge. Keep them properly inflated and rotated and they will wear like iron. Well worth the money.

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NorCal 4x4

· #7 · Oct 20, 2007

Juday said:
"BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO tires meet the industry's severe snow service requirements (and are branded with the mountain/snowflake symbol)" - http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=BFGoodrich&tireModel=All-Terrain+T/A+KO
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Not all sizes meet the severe weather, or snow standard. There are two popular sizes that don't ... the Daimler Chrysler OEM blackwall LT285/70/17 does not, while BFGoodrich's aftermarket Raised White Letter, LT285/70/17 does. The other popular size that flat out does not meet it is the 34.5" diameter LT315/70/17, which is also an OEM spec, for the H2 and maybe other GM trucks. However with this size, there is not a equivalent sized aftermarket tire that meets the standard.

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Yellomantis

· #8 · Oct 20, 2007

NorCal 4x4 said:
Not all sizes meet the severe weather, or snow standard. There are two popular sizes that don't ... the Daimler Chrysler OEM blackwall LT285/70/17 does not, while BFGoodrich's aftermarket Raised White Letter, LT285/70/17 does. The other popular size that flat out does not meet it is the 34.5" diameter LT315/70/17, which is also an OEM spec, for the H2 and maybe other GM trucks. However with this size, there is not a equivalent sized aftermarket tire that meets the standard.

Are you sure on that one? The CHP looked over my tires pretty good before they let me pass. There's even a little snowflake symbol on the sidewall, if that makes any difference?

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NorCal 4x4

· #9 · Oct 20, 2007 (Edited)

Yellomantis said:
Are you sure on that one? The CHP looked over my tires pretty good before they let me pass. There's even a little snowflake symbol on the sidewall, if that makes any difference?

That makes a difference ... Snow flake on the mountain is all you need.

The BFG AT KO spec sheet, and Tire Rack's, are out of date, unless they updated their's within a week or two.

From Tire Rack's spec sheet:
315/70RR17 121/118R D Not Rated For Severe Snow

From BFG's sheet:
*Size does not meet the RMA requirements for severe snow conditions.
O.K. BFG's spec sheet doesn't have any "*" next to the sizes I mentioned anymore, and since you have snowflakes on yours, they have probably rectified this. [I can also now consider the 315s, since this seemed bad]. Thanks for the info!

Spencer ... what's up? You should contact BFG, verify, and then update your spreadsheet. Thanks in advance!

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Yellomantis

· #10 · Oct 20, 2007

NorCal 4x4 said:
That makes a difference ... Snow flake on the mountain is all you need.

The BFG AT KO spec sheet, and Tire Rack's, are out of date, unless they updated their's within a week or two.

Thanks for the info! Spencer ... what's up?

I'm saving up to get a set of the KM2's (hopefully soon), do you know if they are severe winter rated?

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NorCal 4x4

· #11 · Oct 20, 2007

Doubt it, but SDTitan1 just bought some so maybe he can go look for a snowflake. I'm considering them too, but really don't what more than 34s on my truck, and in the 17s they jump from 32.8", (a bit small), to 34.8", (too big). With the Toyo MT I can get a 33.5", and with the Maxxis Bah-horns, a 34.0".

But the KM2s are cheaper and lighter than the Toyo MTs, and I don't know much about the Maxxis Bighorns.

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Fox Delta

· #12 · Oct 20, 2007

Pro Comp tires makes an all-terrain that has the mountain and snowflake symbol AND a 50,000 mile treadwear warranty http://www.procomptires.com/allterrain.html
it looks like it would be pretty quiet too - Sorry I don't have any first hand experience with this tire though.:-(

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[email protected]

· #13 · Oct 20, 2007

there are certain sizes that Goodrich does not qualify for heavy snow and ice due to the rubber compund used in those sizes.

on anothere note, the general grabbers fare well with our consumers

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bad_azz_bmr

· #14 · Oct 27, 2007

BayStateSuks said:
The Bridgestone A/T Revos are also good in snow and ice. So much so that I can get away with 2WD almost all of the time. They also have a better road ride than the BFG A/T KO's. I believe the KO's would be better in pure snow and ice but probably louder on the road.

In terms of price, I got my four Revos from the Firestone dealer who gave me a buy 3 get 1 free deal. Each was $200 or $600 for all four. Plus another $100 or so to mount them.

is this promotion still on? also does it apply to there winter tires? blizzak dm-z3? i wonder if tire rack will do the same deal?

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