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I'm a suspension freak, with my truck ('04 CC 4x4 LE) and my motocross bike; so I've tried all these shocks and these are my findings.

Stock: Real soft, good ride quality, don't like rough roads and won't last more than six months if you use them regularly on this kind of roads; bad bottoming resistance. I replaced my stock shocks with original Nissan's and same thing; they only lasted about five months. I paid about $70 ea. from my local dealer. I only replaced the front, not the rear because these are ok. I'm talking about the Tokiko shocks, not the Rancho OEM.

Monroe: Same ride quality than stock but last longer. They're ok.

DR's (front and rear): Too stiff in my opinion; I live in an area with realy rough roads and these caused the body of my truck to develop too many rattles. I tried several spring preload settings and same thing. I think that they're using a spring rate that is too high for everyday use. The rear caused the truck to go out of line when hitting a bump while going through a turn at speed (fast or moderate). Real expensive, I paid around $1400 for the set of four.

Rancho RS9000X (front and rear): These are the best so far, I really like them. They're adjustable for compresion and rebound (nine positions), you can go from softer than stock to much firmer. They use the stock spring, which in my opinion, it's the best spring rate for the Titan. Position #3 is about the same than stock, you can go from there all the way to position #9, the higher the number the stiffer they get. They come with a leveling kit; that's a cool feature. I paid $700 fo all four installed - not bad when you consider that they perform better than the DR's for half the price.
I was considering to install the kit to adjust them from inside the cab, but a Rancho representative was honest enough to tell me that I was going to have lots of problems with it, so i didn't get it.
I really recommend these.

That's it, I'll continue on my quest for the perfect set-up; I'll keep you posted with my findings, my wallet permitting.
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sounds like you're more of an anal suspension freak than anything. you won't get the best of both worlds unless you go bypass, or have a custom setup from someone like PRG who probably knows a thing or two about suspension since he only builds suspension setups for MDR, BITD, Baja race trucks. you could have him make you a SAW setup with a lighter spring, i dunno, doesn't seem like you'll be pleased with anything.

good luck
I can't speak for the DR frts but I do have them in the rear and VERY happy with them. I also have the Deaver mini pak w/o the factory overload leaf.
I have the SAW's up frt and think they're really good. If you are looking for the ultimate cadillac ride, then maybe those set-ups aren't for you , but I'll but up my SAW/DR combo against ANY Ranchos any time when we hit the desert...
Bandala said:
I'm a suspension freak, with my truck ('04 CC 4x4 LE) and my motocross bike; so I've tried all these shocks and these are my findings.

Stock: Real soft, good ride quality, don't like rough roads and won't last more than six months if you use them regularly on this kind of roads; bad bottoming resistance. I replaced my stock shocks with original Nissan's and same thing; they only lasted about five months. I paid about $70 ea. from my local dealer. I only replaced the front, not the rear because these are ok. I'm talking about the Tokiko shocks, not the Rancho OEM.

Monroe: Same ride quality than stock but last longer. They're ok.

DR's (front and rear): Too stiff in my opinion; I live in an area with realy rough roads and these caused the body of my truck to develop too many rattles. I tried several spring preload settings and same thing. I think that they're using a spring rate that is too high for everyday use. The rear caused the truck to go out of line when hitting a bump while going through a turn at speed (fast or moderate). Real expensive, I paid around $1400 for the set of four.

Rancho RS9000X (front and rear): These are the best so far, I really like them. They're adjustable for compresion and rebound (nine positions), you can go from softer than stock to much firmer. They use the stock spring, which in my opinion, it's the best spring rate for the Titan. Position #3 is about the same than stock, you can go from there all the way to position #9, the higher the number the stiffer they get. They come with a leveling kit; that's a cool feature. I paid $700 fo all four installed - not bad when you consider that they perform better than the DR's for half the price.
I was considering to install the kit to adjust them from inside the cab, but a Rancho representative was honest enough to tell me that I was going to have lots of problems with it, so i didn't get it.
I really recommend these.

That's it, I'll continue on my quest for the perfect set-up; I'll keep you posted with my findings, my wallet permitting.
try kybs i got them on the rear work great
loufish said:
but I'll but up my SAW/DR combo against ANY Ranchos any time when we hit the desert...
I hear ya lou, I'd put my DR/Bilsteins against that set up as well......

the DR combo is expensive but worth it if you'll utilize them, otherwise you'll go on complaining you spent too much just to ride back 'n forth on a dirt road, because they do use a slightly higher/stiffer spring rate (intentionally)........if the ranchos fit the bill, as far as having best of both worlds, good luck, just don't take them off roading otherwise you'll post that you just spent $700 for your shocks to fail......
if the ranchos fit the bill, as far as having best of both worlds, good luck, just don't take them off roading otherwise you'll post that you just spent $700 for your shocks to fail......
Yeah that's right, if you like desert performance then the Ranchos will let you down...The adjustablity of the Ranchos doesn't impress me because you can't adjust the rebound and compression seperatly, now if they were like the shocks on a bike with twin clickers, then you might have something you could tune...I like to run light compression and heavier rebound...
loufish said:
I like to run light compression and heavier rebound...
that's how i have my rear shock on my downhill/freeride mtn bike and my Radflos also feel setup just like that! the rebound valving on my 2.0 Radflos are a bit heavier/slower than my bilsteins i had in back.
DR's, that all, Yagger. PRG, no question, the best.
Bandala said:
I'm talking about the Tokiko shocks, not the Rancho OEM.
what's surprises me the most is someone who self proclaims themself as a suspension freak is going out and wasting their money on twin-tube designed shocks when everyone and their mother know that mono-tube design is superior in every way imaginable. reason why every aftermarket performance coilover manufacturer utilizes the mono-tube design in their products. only cheap companies utilize a twin-tube design. btw, tokico shocks SUCK!!! i'll be the first to say, that was a waste of money!
Rancho shocks best, LOL
Nissan uses the Ranchos, they must be the best !!!! LOL-LOL-LOL !!!!!
The rear caused the truck to go out of line when hitting a bump while going through a turn at speed (fast or moderate)

Cant say Ive had this issue. Ive had my DR rears for 4-5 mos and I love them sooo much better than stock. They make my truck ride real nice
Ok all you guys, I'll race any of you on the Baja 1000 this coming November... anyone??
You ladies are so sensible; you're almost crying because somebody has his own opinion.

The Ranchos are working for my application; so what?
There is nothing wrong that you like the Ranchos. It is that you state that these (mediocre) shocks are better than the specialty high-quality products like DRs. But again if they work for you it is all that matters.

As for the Baja 1000 you'd better not use these Ranchos to race.
Bandala said:
You ladies are so sensible; you're almost crying because somebody has his own opinion.
anyone who comes here is entitled to an opinion, give and opinion, drop off their two cents... whatever. but don't think you won't get a different opinion from the over 8000 members here.



Bandala said:
The Ranchos are working for my application; so what?
then i guess you're done? no need to...
Bandala said:
That's it, I'll continue on my quest for the perfect set-up; I'll keep you posted with my findings, my wallet permitting.
Guys, you are so close together geographically speaking. Why don't you meet up for some off roading, compare notes, share expertise and you would all be better off than squabbling, don't you think?
Bandala said:
Ok all you guys, I'll race any of you on the Baja 1000 this coming November... anyone??
Ok what vehicle of yours has a SCORE tag?
Bandala said:
The Ranchos are working for my application; so what?
then your first post should've stated, "these are the best so far ... for my application"
I think we can all agree that the OEM shocks stink. If you get one year out of them, you are lucky.

My first Titan was a 04 XE 2wd. I replaced the stockers with Bilsteins. The Bilsteins were ten times better than the stockers.

I traded that XE in on my present truck, a 07 SE 4wd. now I am back to where I started. I will most likely go with Bilsteins again, unless some other manufacture comes out with something better. Something that does not require me to refinance my house.

The SAWS and DRs are too expensive.

I have heard that Bilstein is bringing a new adjustable Titan shock to the market soon. One that raises the front end some. Perhaps I will wait to see this one.
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