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horsepower seems low what do you guys think
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The numbers are at the rear wheel, 23 HP gain is not shabby along with a gain of 17 for torque with most of that in the low end where we like it.got_titan said:
Any time you gain hp without giving up torque . . . it's good. How much does it cost for the gain, that is the question IMHO.
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both headers and cat back runs about 75037L1 said:The numbers are at the rear wheel, 23 HP gain is not shabby along with a gain of 17 for torque with most of that in the low end where we like it.
Any time you gain hp without giving up torque . . . it's good. How much does it cost for the gain, that is the question IMHO.
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he jeepin you seem very knowlegable if you use the banks exhaust and lets say no one else comes out with headers other than jba would those 2 work well together? would it really matter. or anyone that has input on this situation. jba says 6 hour install does that seem right? :huh: :upsidedowjeepinfun said:
you may wanna contact banks to see if they will release headers designed for their cat-back system. generally each manufacturer engineers their headers for their cat-back for the most power on a dyno. this gives the manufacturer more flexability into where they want to make power on the band. im not saying you wont gain power, they are definatly designed to flow more gases but you may or may not lose power at another point due to flow characteristics. another thing is if a exhuast claims a certain gain say 15 hp and a set of headers says itll add 10hp, it doesnt necessarily mean youll gain 25hp, you may pick up only 15.jeepinfun said:
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I spoke with Banks today, and they (as long as they have good demand for their cat back system) will be making headers designed to work with their cat back system.lawabidn said:
oh, and by the way, they are emailing me the dyno results for their cat back system!!! :cheers:
Those are some good results. You have to remember, on a vehicle like this, peak hp is not going to be that impressive. HP is purely a mathematical calculation from torque: HP = Torque x RPM ÷ 5252
For vehicles that have a lot of low-end torque and aren't designed to be high-revving, you're not going to see a huge hp increase. If the torque curve is flat you'll see some nice numbers but if it drops off like the Titan's you're not going to be impressed.
At the end of the day, what really matters, especially with a truck, is that the area under the torque curve is greater. That means a faster, more powerful truck.
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...Colin
For vehicles that have a lot of low-end torque and aren't designed to be high-revving, you're not going to see a huge hp increase. If the torque curve is flat you'll see some nice numbers but if it drops off like the Titan's you're not going to be impressed.
At the end of the day, what really matters, especially with a truck, is that the area under the torque curve is greater. That means a faster, more powerful truck.
Cheers,
...Colin
of course it would be logical to utilize the banks headers for the titan if they are produced as I am sure they would be designed to work together.generally speaking though because of the cat placement on our trucks most of the header applications that will come out will be of the same design because of emission laws.I would be inclined to get the JBA headers is Banks does not release any.
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About on par with removing the antenna, folding in the mirrors, and dropping the tailgate.got_titan said:
anyone out there in TITAN land got the headers? what is the advantage to getting geaders by banks (if they put some out) with the banks exhaust as opposed to getting them thru jba. wat are the typical gains of the exhaust and the headers? any gain in the low end?
Sounds like you are as unimpressed with many of these mods as I am. There are obviously measurable gains to be had, but the bang for the buck is just too low to make it worthwhile to me. If I do anything for my truck in terms of performance, I may look at a low-pressure supercharger if they ever come out with one, or just trading up to whatever higher-output version they come out with.bestatchess said:
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