Leveling Kit question

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kentuc794

Discussion Starter · Sep 27, 2007

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I have read about every post on titantalk about level kits. The one issue that seems to be stopping me from installing one is the Upper control arm hitting the coil bucket. Here is my question. Does anyone think there a way to build something that would go on the bottom of the coil spring? That would keep the shock in the factory position and allow it to limit the travel of the UAC and not contact the coil bucket. I have not seen the bottom of the assembly so I do not know if it is even possible, but I do know that some of you out there are engineers and could probably come up with something.
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NorCal 4x4

· #2 · Sep 27, 2007

kentuc794 said:
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I have read about every post on titantalk about level kits. The one issue that seems to be stopping me from installing one is the Upper control arm hitting the coil bucket. Here is my question. Does anyone think there a way to build something that would go on the bottom of the coil spring? That would keep the shock in the factory position and allow it to limit the travel of the UAC and not contact the coil bucket. I have not seen the bottom of the assembly so I do not know if it is even possible, but I do know that some of you out there are engineers and could probably come up with something.
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In either case the shock would be longer ... so if the particular Titan was destined to hit, it would still hit.

The other way of lifting is the spacers that go in the spring and add preload to the coils. These, the most infamous being the Daystar kits, often cause the shocks to die even earlier than they normally do. Having the shock limit the travel is not a good idea.

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kentuc794

Discussion Starter · #3 · Sep 27, 2007

"Having the shock limit the travel is not a good idea."
I thought that is what is limiting the travel on the suspension. If not, what does? Also your are not making the shock longer it would keep the shock and spring at the factory setup. You would be pushing the lower control arm down........Well shoot I just answered my own question, because if I push the lower control arm down something at the top has to follow it and that is the upper control arm. resulting in it being in the same position no matter if the spacer is at the top or the bottom.

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NorCal 4x4

· #4 · Sep 27, 2007 (Edited)

kentuc794 said:
"Having the shock limit the travel is not a good idea."
I thought that is what is limiting the travel on the suspension. If not, what does?

Stock, the shocks are the suspension limit. But most Titan owners, (except maybe a few of those here) don't get full droop, (catch air).

For those catching air or otherwise reaching full droop, (tire dropping into a big hole), an aftermarket coilover with height adjustment is the way to go, especially when teamed with an aftermarket upper A-arm, like the new one from PRG. 2wd Titans can also benefit from the 4" spindle, and run their c.o. with less preload on the springs.

Level kits are for looks and to fit larger tires, for people that drive semi-conservative. They will not make your Titan a prerunner. Loose a little droop and you're able to fit 35" tires, and look better w/o that excessive Titan rake. But stay stock and drive radical enough to have the shocks top out, and plan to replace them often.

For full compression stock, there are some little bump pads that are very thin like 3/16". The PRG level kits include new heavy duty bumpstops.

Some aftermarket coilovers, (for stock applications), like the Donahoe Racing coilovers, have internal droop limits, according to their website. Others that get air use limit straps.

kentuc794 said:
Also your are not making the shock longer it would keep the shock and spring at the factory setup. You would be pushing the lower control arm down........Well shoot I just answered my own question, because if I push the lower control arm down something at the top has to follow it and that is the upper control arm. resulting in it being in the same position no matter if the spacer is at the top or the bottom.

Yep, the working/travel part of the shock isn't longer, but the entire mount to mount length is increased, either with a PRG kit on the top, or if someone figured out a way to lengthen the bottom area, (which would be much harder to do).

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SDTitan1

· #5 · Sep 27, 2007

kentuc794 said:
Here is my question. Does anyone think there a way to build something that would go on the bottom of the coil spring?

have you ever seen the bottom of the C/O and how it mounts? that sounds incredibly difficult to do..........interesting idea though.....

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kentuc794

Discussion Starter · #6 · Sep 27, 2007

No I have not taken mine out yet to see what is at the bottom. I was just thinking about this coil bucket hitting and trying to figure out a cheap way to keep it from hitting and was throwing ideas out there to stir someone brain up a little. As it looks the about the only solution is to get the aftermarket UAC, which is the way I think I am going to go.

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helomech

· #7 · Sep 28, 2007

I regularly drive some rough dirt roads, and do some off roading and have never had any issue with bottoming out.

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