well gf had to get an oil change at nissan today so i we decided to go take a look at the titans, guy tried selling me one that wasn't in my interest but i asked him straight up if he can go down to invoice, he said no that they are selling 4 thousand over sticker, ok i know he was lying there and i know they would go down if i was really interested, i would get up and go elsewhere if they didnt go down to invoice. Overall I love the truck, i started it up and heard the roar, i must say i was tempted but can't buy one till the summer, I am waiting on the 05 pathfinders. It's going to be a choice between these two, titan or pathy, the guy also gave me some more of how they are going to be busy in the summer and wont be able to sit down and talk price, this guy must not want my sale. lol Im anxious for this pathfinder to come out, see which one i like more.