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Just traded our 2011 SV for a 2014 Pro-4x...with Navigation.

Drove it home today and the directions were terrible. We were on a 300 mile route we have taken for many years. Goggle maps and Waze do just fine. The directions from the onboard nav system were absolutely terrible. would have added 1.5 hours to a 5 hour trip.
This was our first experience with Nissan navigation.

Is it always bad and all the Titans?

Has anyone had good experience?

A new 2017 nav SD card is $150. I'm sure the maps will be updated but will the directions software be new and improved?

Does anyone know or know where I can find out?

Thanks,

Chas
 

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I think all Nav systems give horrible directions and I ever use them as a reference.

The one advantage Waze and Google have that built in systems usually don't is that they get traffic information so can adjust routes based on that, though I still don't always agree with them.

I do have a 2013 with Nav, I don't find it does to bad of a job though, but like I said, I rarely follow any of them completely or trust them. Nothing beats an accurate map and planning your route.
 

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How to use your Nav system in the Titan:

Step 1: Open Google maps on phone.
Step 2: Place phone in front of Nav screen.
Step 3: Proceed to destination.

The Nav on the Titans has always been terrible. My 2008 had a 2006 disc in it for Navigation. When I found that out in 2010 and told the dealer they offered to sell me the 2010 for like $80 to compensate. The 2010 disc was near as bad as the 2006. Roads that had been built for years missing, bad directions, etc.

In our 2016 Maxima it's not awful and we use it occasionally.
 
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I bought my truck on Thanks giving weekend. I drove it home and the Navigation system told me my software version was out of date. The SD card is the one that was in it when it was MFGed . For some reason I feel like when I buy a new truck it should come with all updated software. The dealer and Nisan Navigation keeps telling me what the price is for the new SD card. I keep telling them what the price for the updated card SHOULD be for my NEW truck....those two prices are not the same so far.
 

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Check the Navigation configuration. Maybe the prior owner set the preferences to avoid highways. My mom (76 years old) will avoid the highway like the plague, taking city streets even though it costs her more travel time and worse MPG.
 

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I have the '15 Pro4X with Nav and the card that came with the truck (new) was the 2011 version. I tried to get it replaced on the Nissan dime but that was an effort in futility.
Given that the directions, points of interest and just about all the rest of the content is way out of date and WAY inaccurate and that the upgrade would likely be more of the same, I use a Garmin that has free updates for life.
Way better directions, user friendly and it cost less than one upgrade of the factory Nav system.
Don't waste any more money on the sub par factory system, get a dedicated GPS/Nav or use the phone as suggeseted by LaxDfns15. You'll be glad you did.
 

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Just traded our 2011 SV for a 2014 Pro-4x...with Navigation.

Drove it home today and the directions were terrible. We were on a 300 mile route we have taken for many years. Goggle maps and Waze do just fine. The directions from the onboard nav system were absolutely terrible. would have added 1.5 hours to a 5 hour trip.
This was our first experience with Nissan navigation.

Is it always bad and all the Titans?

Has anyone had good experience?

A new 2017 nav SD card is $150. I'm sure the maps will be updated but will the directions software be new and improved?

Does anyone know or know where I can find out?

Thanks,

Chas
For the year of your truck it would be worth the map upgrade. I have a 2017 and no way will I pay 150 bucks just to get updates that I will never see or use. Dealer told me to wait a couple years for it to be worth getting. You should notice an improvement.
 

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How to use your Nav system in the Titan:

Step 1: Open Google maps on phone.
Step 2: Place phone in front of Nav screen.
Step 3: Proceed to destination.

The Nav on the Titans has always been terrible. My 2008 had a 2006 disc in it for Navigation. When I found that out in 2010 and told the dealer they offered to sell me the 2010 for like $80 to compensate. The 2010 disc was near as bad as the 2006. Roads that had been built for years missing, bad directions, etc.

In our 2016 Maxima it's not awful and we use it occasionally.
You must have a dud then because I am still using an outdated map and it has not done me wrong no matter where I go. Maybe I am lucky! dunno!
 

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The day I got my truck the Nav system took me to a gas station when I was looking for a bank.
No bank at the gas station. As far as I know there has never been a bank there.
Go with the after market, the factory Nav systems suck big time.
 

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I just use Waze. The nav in my wife's '14 Subaru sucks, too.
 

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Thanks for those thoughts. I worked in an internet startup in 1994 and our engineers wrote our own D2D directions. Some complaints about route choice but the bottom line question was "did it get you there"?...even if it didn't use your own personal short cut (local knowledge). The nav system in our 1914 Pro4x seems to do most of that.

The other element is changing business and roads. You need to sync to new data, which the in car systems cannot do to my knowledge. This is one of the areas Google/ Waze excel, plus, moving you around traffic.

We will probably get the update which is 2018 V9.0 and see if it is an improvement. Our salesman said at the time of costs the upgrades were $15:)

We'll let you know how it goes.
 

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We purchased an Infiniti Q50S originally without the factory navigation, but the dealer trade went bad and they got us a car with navigation for the same price. I thought that was great. The first long trip we took, I brought along my Garmin GPS because I had custom POI's for the trip and have used it for many cross country trips. I trusted it.

I laid out the route using distance calculator.net and the Garmin at home. Both routes took me from Iowa City straight south to Salem Arkansas. The Infiniti nav took us west to DesMoines, then south along Kansas City to Fayetteville Arkansas, then east across Arkansas through Mountain Home and onto Salem. My arrival time with the Garmin as about 10:30 PM. My arrival time with the Infiniti nav was 2:30ish AM.

I checked the settings of both nav systems to be the same, and for the sake of an experiment, I followed the Garmin route all the way to Salem. About 1/2 hour to my destination, I saw the Infiniti nav arrival time was around 80 minutes arrival time. The funny part of the story is when I arrived to my destination following the Garmin route, sitting in the parking lot idle I watched the Infiniti nav count down from a 20 minute arrival time to zero. That took over 10 minutes after our arrival. The issue was raised to Infiniti and a ticket was opened on the issue, but never addressed.

One feature I requested with Nissan about the Titan redesign was to keep a flat section in the center top of the dashboard like in the gen1 trucks. Removing the mat, this is where I have my Garmin suction cup mount. I'll take the Garmin over OEM nav any day.
 
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I had a 2014 Pro-4x Frontier and just updated it to a 1 year old card when I did the map update. It couldn't be easier to do and the cards are relatively cheap on ebay.

I think I paid $40 and then sold my old one for like $20...

It doesn't make the maps perfect or as good as Google, but it does help out quite a bit!

I found one that will work on your truck. It's called a 2017 version, but really came out in the fall of 2016. Its only $34. I will paste the link below. If it happens to be sold, just search for the OEM part # 25920 9HT0A on ebay.

Adam

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-17-NI...94dcd821:g:TN4AAOSwSr9Z5GIs&vxp=mtr#vi-ilComp
 

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OK, after much nashing of teeth, bought the 2018 card update recommended on the Nissan site. Even though we paid $100 on Ebay, that was at least better then $150 everywhere else I could find it.

To my surprise, dramatic improvement! With the old data card, when compared to directions from Google, the times would often be different by 40%....i.e.:Google would say 2.5 hours and the Titan card would be 4 hours. Driving the route, Google was always right and also picked better roads. Now, they only differed by 15 minutes on a 8 hour trip and it is choosing better routes.

It is still missing, or not properly identifying certain data. When we ask it to search local restaurants around our house, it starts the list 22 miles away, missing about 10 closer...but...you can find these restaurants using a text search. In the database but not being picked up by the radius search.

We are happy we spent the $ and have a upgraded respect for the in car nav. Still does not compare to Google Maps though.

Chas
 
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