need a boost of confidence.

Welcome and congrats on the new truck.. The gas mileage ranges alot aroune the board.. It might get a little better when she gets broke in.. Put a few aftermarket goodies on her and have fun.. The fact of owning the best truck in the world, imow, is worth a drop of a few mpg.. Enjoy!!

Ah yes, buyer's remorse. The truck will get better MPG as you break it in, but not all THAT great. I can get 19-20mpg on the highway treating the RPM right

Your Titan might get better gas mileage with time, but they ain't known for fuel economy. If you want a boost of confidence, go line up next to a Chevy at a light and when you beat him, that will be your boost. If you worried about a warranty go buy an extended one. Now go drop the hammer on that new ride.

Well the warranty is what it is, there is not much getting around that and you obviously knew what it was before purchasing the truck. The gas milage, well don't be surprised if that doesn't change either. Yes, the Titan's milage is lower then a Chebby. But.............. here is the positive feedback, THE TITAN IS A FASTER, MORE POWERFUL, MORE INSANELY BAD A**, and overall a better truck. So you WILL NOT regret your decision, I guarantee it!
Welcome!

A lot of that depends on whether you got the Tow Package or not. You can get 19-20 w/o a tow package but with it, the Rear-End Gearing is a lower ratio and you'll be closer to 14-17. Thanks to a thread on CT, we've also started learning that gas is mixed differently in Winter time for better evaporation with additional additives like Butane making our MPG's worse during Winter Months.

Pops said:

A lot of that depends on whether you got the Tow Package or not. You can get 19-20 w/o a tow package but with it, the Rear-End Gearing is a lower ratio and you'll be closer to 14-17. Thanks to a thread on CT, we've also started learning that gas is mixed differently in Winter time for better evaporation with additional additives like Butane making our MPG's worse during Winter Months.

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The tow package sucks right around 1mpg. Nowhere near the 3-4mpg you are claiming, not sure where you got that number from.

We could start a glue factory with all the dead horses we're beating on the subject of gas mileage.

Yahooligan said:

The tow package sucks right around 1mpg. Nowhere near the 3-4mpg you are claiming, not sure where you got that number from.....

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From reading comments from other Titan owners over the last year. You would know better than I do but that's pretty much what I've read from other postings. You're right about the neverending discussion and I should have stated "From what I've seen in other threads". Sorry for coming across as a know it all. :upsidedow

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From reading comments from other Titan owners over the last year. You would know better than I do but that's pretty much what I've read from other postings. You're right about the neverending discussion and I should have stated "From what I've seen in other threads". Sorry for coming across as a know it all. :upsidedow

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No worries. I think you'll find the mileage is quite varied regardless of 2wd, 4wd, BT/OR, etc. I bet there are more people with BT/OR than not, and among these a number of them get poor mileage, but seeing as how folks outside that group get bad mileage and some inside that group get good mileage, it's the luck of the draw. If more people drink Pepsi than Coke and there are more fat Pepsi drinkers than fat Coke drinkers does that mean Pepsi makes more people fat?

Statistics are an ugly play on numbers.

OMG!! I never knew that about Pepsi!!! I need to switch! :lol:

With the varied MPG obtained among the Titanists, would a reset of the ECU help? I mean, if the truck "learns" as you drive, can you reset the ECU, lightfoot it for a while, and possibly "teach" the truck to run in the 15-16 range rather than the 13-14 range?

Just a thought......

I own a 2wd KC and a 4wd CC w/ Big Tow. Trust me gas is worse with the Big Tow. I know the additional weight of the front diff plays a part but it can't be that much. The gear ratio definitly changes gas consumption.
Besides that these trucks are great!

Blackbeauty said:

OMG!! I never knew that about Pepsi!!! I need to switch! :lol:

With the varied MPG obtained among the Titanists, would a reset of the ECU help? I mean, if the truck "learns" as you drive, can you reset the ECU, lightfoot it for a while, and possibly "teach" the truck to run in the 15-16 range rather than the 13-14 range?

Just a thought......

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I'm not sure if that would help or not, my gut tells me no and this is why...

The ECU isn't actually learning the driver's habits, it's learning how the engine performs; Airflow, AFR, timing, etc for given operating ranges. Resetting the ECU won't change the airflow, AFR, or timing while cruising since there were no other changes made, such as CAI, exhaust, chip, different octane fuel... It will end up running the the same map more than likely. If you were to install a CAI, which changes the airflow, then an ECU reset would be prudent so it could learn and adjust for the difference in airflow.

All things being equal, driving at 1/4 throttle will be the same before and after an ECU reset since nothing else changed.

Of course, this is just speculation on my part based on the basic functions of the ECU. It would take someone that knows ECU programming to tell us for sure, which means Nissan, Stillen, UpRev...

jasonmotox said:

I own a 2wd KC and a 4wd CC w/ Big Tow. Trust me gas is worse with the Big Tow. I know the additional weight of the front diff plays a part but it can't be that much. The gear ratio definitly changes gas consumption.
Besides that these trucks are great!

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Apples and oranges. You cannot say without a doubt it's the BT causing the difference. The additional weight of the front diff isn't what causes the 4wd to consume more gas, it's the rotational mass and wind resistance. With our 4wd trucks the entire drivetrain is moving whether you're in 2wd or 4wd. The front shafts, diff, and driveshaft are all in motion while you're driving. Our 4wd trucks also sit higher, so there is more air flowing under the truck, which is more turbulent thanks to all the pockets and angles caused by the frame, suspension, etc.

If you had a 2wd KC non-BT and a 2wd KC BT, both optioned the same, and one got noticeably worse mileage than the other then it would be a more valid conclusion. However, since both trucks are COMPLETELY different there is zero chance you can prove it's a single difference causing the change.

My 18mpg 4wd CC BT must be magic.

Likewise, my 12.5 mpg with my 4wd KC non-BT is very non-magical.

But that's mostly all city (urban) driving, and very little of that anyway so I just don't care.

btw - chebby gives away a 100,000 warrenty because they know potential buyers are thinking they're gonna need it. Nissan doesn't have too. Every read about the horrible nissan piston slap issue? No, me either...

btw - firingpin - is your gas blended up there? Gas in DE is 10% ethanol, which I *know* is killing my mileage...

Blackbeauty said:

OMG!! I never knew that about Pepsi!!! I need to switch! :lol:

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BTW, I belong to a secret underground club. We drink RC Cola. :upsidedow

im not sure if the gas is blended here in central, pa or not, it probably is because it gets pretty cold... and i have the king cab with the towing package...thanks for the boost of confidence everyone....like i said i really like the truck, its just all those things start running through your mind and then you say ,should have i done that... oh well to late now, but i really do love driving the truck...

Well, '06 CC 4x4 BT/OR in PA here.... My experience these 2 years with this truck..... Summers I can get 14-15 average mixed MPG's... Winters, NOT!!! 12-13 MPG... Winter fuel, plus warming the truck, idling, etc. My trip mileage is around 18.5 MPG best.

It SHOULD get better once it warms up around here. Don't worry.

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im not sure if the gas is blended here in central, pa or not, it probably is because it gets pretty cold... and i have the king cab with the towing package...thanks for the boost of confidence everyone....like i said i really like the truck, its just all those things start running through your mind and then you say ,should have i done that... oh well to late now, but i really do love driving the truck...

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As you're driving along, this might help a little too. My Armada gets about 13-17 and sometimes almost 18 on long trips totally depending on the situation. I have spent some time in Wifey's Murano which was the best MPG straight gasoline V6 SUV in '05 when we got it and it gets 19-25 MPG depending on the situation. The Armada's tank is a little larger and I run 91 oct in the Murano to keep it from knocking and each vehicle has to be filled weekly and most of the time there is only $5-$10 difference. I'm just glad I didn't get something trying to save gas just to find Car Payments, Ins, or other costs adding up to offset the "gas savings".

You have to pay a premium to drive a premium vehicle. It's a ****ing experience every time you turn the son of a ***** on!

I get 13-14 mpg on mine. I would say during the Summer Months, I'll see 15-16mpg because I won't have to worry about using the defrosters. I drive with my windows down and my Sunglasses on.