[rrumaner]

Got a call from the service manager at my dealership this morning. It seems Nissan is in the area and were looking for two 4WD Titans with over 60K miles in the area. The SM asked if they could have my truck for 48 hours so Nissan engineers could remove and replace with new the following items: throttle chamber, two (2) O2 sensors and the drive shaft. They are going to give me a loaner for the 2 days and replace all the parts with new ones that will have new full length warranties on them.

Talk about a nice wake up call. Brand new parts on my truck for nothing other than the inconvenience of not having it for two days. Like xmas in October.

See what happens when you are nice to your service manager.

 

[dragonhead08]

throttle chamber?

Anyways, you lucky bastard. New driveshaft sounds interesting. I wonder whats new about it?

 

[rrumaner]

throttle chamber?

Anyways, you lucky bastard. New driveshaft sounds interesting. I wonder whats new about it?

No idea what a throttle chamber is, but I will when I get back from the dealership. If the driveshaft they replace mine with is new, that is what's new about it. I figure they are looking for stress issues in the 4WD shafts as opposed to the 2WD ones, if they are in fact different. I have no idea at this point. All I know is that I will be driving on new warrantied equipment for a lot longer than my original 100K miles warranty will cover.

 

[BayStateSuks]

Be afraid, be very afraid. It makes me wonder what else they might do to the truck and not tell you? ECM reprogram, install event data recorder ('08 has them), party in the truck with women dressed as schoolgirls, etc.

As a side note, the drive shaft on my '08 4WD is not the same one that was on my '05 4WD. It doesn't even look like it was made from the same material. I think it is steel and not aluminum despite both trucks being SE models.

 

[rrumaner]

Be afraid, be very afraid. It makes me wonder what else they might do to the truck and not tell you? ECM reprogram, install event data recorder ('08 has them), party in the truck with women dressed as schoolgirls, etc.

As a side note, the drive shaft on my '08 4WD is not the same one that was on my '05 4WD. It doesn't even look like it was made from the same material. I think it is steel and not aluminum despite both trucks being SE models.

I am amazed at how little some people think of their dealerships. Why would you think that they would do something and not tell me? Is that something you would do to someone else?

I figure that if you show people respect you will not get screwed by them. Yes I know there are a$$holes out there, but I have not had one problem with my dealership since I bought the truck unlike some people here.

As far as installing an event recorder, so what? I don't drive it in a manner where I would have to worry about what it reported. And if they want to party in it with schoolgirls, I will make sure to ask for pictures.

Besides, since it is still under warranty for 27K more miles, anything they screw around with, they have to deal with later on their dime. Not something I expect Nissan would want to deal with.

 

[P's Titan]

See what happens when you are nice to your service manager.

Thats my motto!!!

 

[P's Titan]

I am amazed at how little some people think of their dealerships. Why would you think that they would do something and not tell me? Is that something you would do to someone else?

I figure that if you show people respect you will not get screwed by them. Yes I know there are a$$holes out there, but I have not had one problem with my dealership since I bought the truck unlike some people here.

As far as installing an event recorder, so what? I don't drive it in a manner where I would have to worry about what it reported. And if they want to party in it with schoolgirls, I will make sure to ask for pictures.

Besides, since it is still under warranty for 27K more miles, anything they screw around with, they have to deal with later on their dime. Not something I expect Nissan would want to deal with.

great write up.. people would be amazed at what they can/will do for you if show them some respect and treat them like you would want to be treated.

 

[Nissan Mike]

Nisan Engineering will frequently ask dealers for certain parts for product evaluation of "real world" driving.Normally Dealers will contact their "best" customers.
They will not do anything without you knowing about it,and they will give you the truck back in better condition.
You may also be asked to return in a few months for re-evaluation on what was recently installed.
Side note,this is also a great way for assistance on matters maybe out of warranty that they could possibly take care of while your helping them.
Their budget is almost endless,normally they can authorize absolutely anything they want.I saw them replace a complete front suspension a few years ago on an 04 Titan when the brake judder issue was still in the trial and error stages.They wanted everything but the wheels left intact for inspection.
They have also been known to show up with complete engine assy's in the back of their trucks and pay the dealers techs to install them.
Maybe ask about you exhaust manifold/cats while you're in there.
Congrats!

 

[2007 TITAN LE]

Be afraid, be very afraid. It makes me wonder what else they might do to the truck and not tell you? ECM reprogram, install event data recorder ('08 has them), party in the truck with women dressed as schoolgirls, etc.

As a side note, the drive shaft on my '08 4WD is not the same one that was on my '05 4WD. It doesn't even look like it was made from the same material. I think it is steel and not aluminum despite both trucks being SE models.

The party and girls would be fine with me as long as they invite me along:rockon

 

[BayStateSuks]

In truth, I would worry they may put in the EDR to track performance of the new parts they are installing (which would not be unreasonable if that is all they intend to do with the data). The lawyer in me believes that this is violating your right to privacy. Not to mention you have no control as to what they will do with the data, e.g., provide it to plaintiff's counsel voluntarily or in response to subpoena or discovery if you get in an accident. But if you have no problems with that, I suppose it is no big deal.

 

[HudsonValleyTitan]

I'd stay away from that! Throttle chamber? I'd need to know a LOT before allowing them to touch my truck. The driveshaft is aluminum...if it's running ok, I'd leave it alone. Just my .02

 

[rrumaner]

Well the truck is now sitting at the dealership. The techs that came were from Japan and told me that none of your assumptions or fears are rational, which everyone else here already knew anyway.

No they are not going to adjust the ECM, no that are not going to put in an EDR, no they are not going to track anything, no they are not idiots who just want to screw around and see what they can mess up. They are using the data they get back from these types of tests to determine what, if any, changes they need to make to the 2009 models and/or if they need to start proceedings to issue recalls on parts that could become defective after a certain number of miles.

What they are doing is sending the parts back to Japan to allow the engineers to study them and see what the parts look like after 60K miles. Remember this is on a 2004 model - first year model - and they want to see how the parts are holding up.

They are taking out the drive shaft, the O2 sensors, the air flow sensors and the throttle body. All will be replaced with brand new parts and the full warranty for all the parts will be added to my current warranty along with an additional 50K miles on my entire truck's extended warranty. So I get new parts and an additional 50K mile warranty just for allowing them to replace parts on my truck.

Where is the downside?

Unlike some of you, I am not the paranoid type. I don't look for conspiracies every time someone offers to do something nice for me. Maybe if those of you who wouldn't let Nissan do this stopped acting like everyone was out to screw you, you would stop getting screwed and enjoy your lives. I have yet to have anything negative happen to me with any of the dealers I have visited.

A little politeness goes a long way.

 

[Rick Guess]

i agree about not getting screwed by the dealer

but i am interested in the party in the truck, can i come?


lol

 

[BayStateSuks]

Hey, it was my idea, so I should at least get to watch from a distance.

 

[baseballfanz]

Wow that's some good luck on your part. I don't think they're out to do any funny business. If they wanted to so that they can do it to anyone's truck in for service without them knowing.

 

[TitanBlue]

Event Data Recorders are already in virtually all vehicles, nothing new there. Info is gotten by insurance co's and otheres in case of accidents on a regular basis, without owners being aware of it. Courts are still debating who owns" the info.... so noting new to worry about there.

Drive shafts would be same/different based on 4x2 vs 4x4 and year. Trim (XE,SE,LE) isn't going to determine anything about that, it's totally unrelated.

Real world results are incredibly helpful, I'd do it in a heartbeat! Congrats on the unusual offer, it's a good one!

 

[2007 TITAN LE]

Well the truck is now sitting at the dealership. The techs that came were from Japan and told me that none of your assumptions or fears are rational, which everyone else here already knew anyway.

No they are not going to adjust the ECM, no that are not going to put in an EDR, no they are not going to track anything, no they are not idiots who just want to screw around and see what they can mess up. They are using the data they get back from these types of tests to determine what, if any, changes they need to make to the 2009 models and/or if they need to start proceedings to issue recalls on parts that could become defective after a certain number of miles.

What they are doing is sending the parts back to Japan to allow the engineers to study them and see what the parts look like after 60K miles. Remember this is on a 2004 model - first year model - and they want to see how the parts are holding up.

They are taking out the drive shaft, the O2 sensors, the air flow sensors and the throttle body. All will be replaced with brand new parts and the full warranty for all the parts will be added to my current warranty along with an additional 50K miles on my entire truck's extended warranty. So I get new parts and an additional 50K mile warranty just for allowing them to replace parts on my truck.

Where is the downside?

Unlike some of you, I am not the paranoid type. I don't look for conspiracies every time someone offers to do something nice for me. Maybe if those of you who wouldn't let Nissan do this stopped acting like everyone was out to screw you, you would stop getting screwed and enjoy your lives. I have yet to have anything negative happen to me with any of the dealers I have visited.

A little politeness goes a long way.

I would jump on it also. Who cares if they install EDR? If you do nothing wrong, there is nothing to fear. Sounds like Nissan is trying to better their product. We all know the rear diffs are a possible weakpoint in the truck, maybe they have been having some issues with the other componets they are looking at, who knows. I am sure the engineers know what they are doing. Hell, I would let them do it on my brand new Titan.

 

[rrumaner]

Got the truck back this evening and got the list of items removed and replaced.

-- Replace EFI Throttle Chamber
-- Replace Rear Propeller Shaft
-- Replace Fan Coupling Assy & Fan
-- Replace Both Air Fuel Ratio Sensors
-- Replace Both Rear O2 Sensors

Now if I only knew what all those things actually were I would be really happy.

 

[dragonhead08]

throttle chamber and rear propeller shaft really have me curious.

 

[Arachnid]

You can't argue with new parts for free and an extended warranty, Congrat's!