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OEM Front brake Pads or Napa high end ceramic?

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If you had your choice would you go with Napa High End Ceramic Front pads for $90 or OEM from nissan for 140?

Are there any pros or cons?
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I'm a Ray Bestos fan myself I think you can get their high end ceramic blend fro around $70.
I had Hawk ceramics on my 300M after the OEM semi-mets ate the rotors. The ceramics were awesome!

I just put Akebono ceramics on my Titan for $83.00 for the fronts. I tried to get the EBC pads, but apparently, they are impossible to get... Always out of stock, backorders not being filled.

I will say this, the OEM semi-mets scored the rotors enough to need to be turned. I noticed by looking at the pads, the metallic bits come loose from the pad as it wears and get dragged across the pad, hit a hard spot, and get embedded in the organic pad material, and forever after act like a piece of grit on a 60-grit sanding pad. THAT's what scores the schit out of the rotors.

Having lived with the beauty of ceramics, the hell of semi-mets, and seeing the damage to the pads and rotors, I'm a ceramics fan for life.

Besides, who the hell wants to pay twice as much for OEM pads as something that isn't as destructive? I believe the choice is simple. Mine sure was.
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Hey BB, where did you get the Akebono from?
TIA
Blackbeauty said:
I will say this, the OEM semi-mets scored the rotors enough to need to be turned. I noticed by looking at the pads, the metallic bits come loose from the pad as it wears and get dragged across the pad, hit a hard spot, and get embedded in the organic pad material, and forever after act like a piece of grit on a 60-grit sanding pad. THAT's what scores the schit out of the rotors.
Did you take this issue up w/ the dealer? Both my front rotors are scored, and I've only got 18K miles on my '06. I'm gonna take it to the dealer to see if they'll do anything. I hate having to turn the rotors at such an early stage.
baseballfanz said:
Hey BB, where did you get the Akebono from?
TIA
I just got them through Tirerack. Only $77 for fronts. Came to $84.46 total with shipping. I was sick of dealing with the other online brake sites. Nothing but a runaround, and I had just bought tires from TR, so I gave them the sale. All the others were about the same price with free shipping, so it all worked out even anyway.
BHMTitan said:
Did you take this issue up w/ the dealer? Both my front rotors are scored, and I've only got 18K miles on my '06. I'm gonna take it to the dealer to see if they'll do anything. I hate having to turn the rotors at such an early stage.
Nah. Every brake job should have the rotors "cleaned" with a slight turn. Just sets the new pads in better and without further damage to the rotors or premature wearing of the pads. Besides, for $12, it wasn't worth a day at the dealership......
My OEM rotors are shot from the OEM pads as well, and just started the famous judder action.
I got dba rotors and Ake pads from TireRack, putting them on this weekend...Or maybe sooner...
Blackbeauty said:
I just got them through Tirerack. Only $77 for fronts. Came to $84.46 total with shipping. I was sick of dealing with the other online brake sites. Nothing but a runaround, and I had just bought tires from TR, so I gave them the sale. All the others were about the same price with free shipping, so it all worked out even anyway.
Thanks BB, just ordered some.:rockon
Hope you clicked the Tirerack link from this site.. That way TT gets credit.
No I forgot they were even a sponsor.:D
I did however listed TT when ask how I found the site.
grnTitan04 said:
My OEM rotors are shot from the OEM pads as well, and just started the famous judder action.
I got dba rotors and Ake pads from TireRack, putting them on this weekend...Or maybe sooner...
Are you gonna be putting them on yourself? I also have a 4x4 and wondering how the installation differs (i.e. how to deal w/ the hub) from the 2x4 install. Any idea how to get the rotor off w/ the 4x4 hub?

Thanks...
BHMTitan said:
Are you gonna be putting them on yourself? I also have a 4x4 and wondering how the installation differs (i.e. how to deal w/ the hub) from the 2x4 install. Any idea how to get the rotor off w/ the 4x4 hub?

Thanks...
The rotor is attached by two bolts from the back side through the caliper. The rotor has a hollow center that the hub passes through without fastening to it. Just remove the two bolts from the back (21mm socket and a LOT of muscle), and the caliper comes off the rotor and the rotor pops off the axle. You may need to bop it with a rubber mallot on the backside a bit if it doesn't come off right away, but there's nothing difficult about it. Oh, and FYI, mine's 4x4 too. :D
Yes, I am going to do it myself. I bought an impact wrench to make sure I can get the Torque member bolts off ($9 clearance at Harbor Freight, SWEEEETT!)

Nothing special about the 4x4 install. I can take a few pics when I have it apart.

Here is the section from the Serv Manual, doesn't separate x2, x4.

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Thanks for the info on the 4x4 hubs... sounds simple enough I should be able to do it myself!! And yeah, add some pics when you can. Later!
Thanks for the great advice. I'll return my OEM brake pads and go with some good ceramics.
BHMTitan said:
Thanks for the info on the 4x4 hubs... sounds simple enough I should be able to do it myself!! And yeah, add some pics when you can. Later!
I posted the photos in a new thread so as to stop hijacking this one, sorry jrein.
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