PRG Leveling Kit 4wd

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mjclarke4

Discussion Starter · Oct 30, 2007

I've looked through most of these threads and gathered a wealth of information from you guys, this is a great site. what i wanted to know is if anyone has just that leveling kit on their 4wd? Secondly, is the coil bucket hitting? Thirdly, do you have to compress the spring to do the install and how hard is it (do you have to disconnect the sway bar)? I don't have much experience with this stuff and this is my first truck. All i'd like to accomplish is a level ride with the biggest all-terrain tires I can fit without rubbing. This is my daly driver, but I will be towing on occasion and going out to the desert doing some mild off-roading. Oh yeah, one more thing. With this kit, do I have to get an alignment? I thought I saw a picture of this kit, but can't remember where. Thanks in advance.

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54warrior

· #2 · Oct 30, 2007

what i wanted to know is if anyone has just that leveling kit on their 4wd?

Many do

Secondly, is the coil bucket hitting?

Not if you have the correct kit installed, there is a difference between the 2wd and 4wd kits

Thirdly, do you have to compress the spring to do the install

No, the spacer goes ontop of the stock assembly

do you have to disconnect the sway bar?

Yes

Should take you less than 2 hours since your a newbie.

With this kit, do I have to get an alignment?

Yes

www.prgproducts.com

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Bhudda454

· #3 · Oct 30, 2007

mjclarke4 said:
I've looked through most of these threads and gathered a wealth of information from you guys, this is a great site. what i wanted to know is if anyone has just that leveling kit on their 4wd? Secondly, is the coil bucket hitting? Thirdly, do you have to compress the spring to do the install and how hard is it (do you have to disconnect the sway bar)? I don't have much experience with this stuff and this is my first truck. All i'd like to accomplish is a level ride with the biggest all-terrain tires I can fit without rubbing. This is my daly driver, but I will be towing on occasion and going out to the desert doing some mild off-roading. Oh yeah, one more thing. With this kit, do I have to get an alignment? I thought I saw a picture of this kit, but can't remember where. Thanks in advance.

Good God man, you have a lot of good questions..

I have an 084x4 and I do have the "level only" kit from PRG.

It is simple to put on with hand tools, a jackstand, and a floor jack. You will need to get some bolts from the dealers, I suggest one of the vendors from here, as they are high. Our vendors are much nicer than your local clowns.

The kit is simple, no spring compressor needed. You will pull the whole strut out. You will be better with a helper. I do have bucket banging, but I did before the kit. I have an email into Greg and Jen askign if they know of a fix. It isn't all that bad, and if nothing else it will rub itself out eventually. I am under the belief that you can put a 305 or 315 depending on your wheel size. I am stuck at 305 as I am running 20's.

Where are you at? We often help each other out with these here in the Texas area.

Blackbeauty

· #4 · Oct 30, 2007

Kit:

http://www.prgproducts.com/titan_leveling.php

I just put this on my truck this past Saturday. Very easy installation. If you can say "socket wrench", you can install this.

To answer your questions:

1. This is the only suspension mod I have on my truck at the moment.\

2. No, the coil bucket is NOT hitting. I know some have had this issue. I don't know what the problem is with that but mine does not hit.

3. No spring compression is required. The entire coilover assembly comes off, you bolt the spacer to it, and reattach everything. Very simple.

4. Yes, you have to disconnect the sway link. It's only one bolt. Not difficult at all.

It will level your truck nicely. I love the new stance.

Mild offroading should be fine, but realize, at full droop you may hit the coilbuckets. On the street, it's not a problem, but if you get off the ground or max out the suspension travel, you'll hit.

An alignment is recommended after installing this kit. I did it, as I have brand new tires on the truck. No sense wasting all that money....

Tire sizing? Well, any 33" tire will fit. You could fit 35's with a pinchweld mod and losing the mudflaps. Width is dependant. Some run 305's, others, 315's with the clearance mods.

Good luck. It really isn't hard. The first side took about 1.5 hours. The second, about 20 minutes... You learn from doing it.

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Blackbeauty

· #5 · Oct 30, 2007

Damn! I thought I typed fast!!! :lol:

helomech

· #6 · Oct 30, 2007

I have just the level kit with 295/70-17 toyo m/ts, and do lots of off road driving and have never hit the coil buckets.

mjclarke4

Discussion Starter · #7 · Oct 31, 2007

So this seems like the easiest and cheapest route to getting a little height out of the front end. Would I be able to fit 305 18's with this kit or would I need to go with the mini kit which includes the block for the rear?

54warrior

· #8 · Oct 31, 2007

mjclarke4 said:
So this seems like the easiest and cheapest route to getting a little height out of the front end. Would I be able to fit 305 18's with this kit or would I need to go with the mini kit which includes the block for the rear?

My understanding is that a 305 will work on the stock wheels as long as you have the leveling kit. Might require some trimming of the pinch weld though.

The block in the back has no bearing on the size of tires you'll be able to run, as a stock Titan could clear 37" tires on the rear easily. The main purpose of the rear block is to just raise the rear some to match the front.

mjclarke4

Discussion Starter · #9 · Oct 31, 2007

I thought that the leveling kit would make the front match the rear though?

54warrior

· #10 · Oct 31, 2007

mjclarke4 said:
I thought that the leveling kit would make the front match the rear though?

Correct, by itself, however some add both the front and rear to gain additional lift all around.

mjclarke4

Discussion Starter · #11 · Oct 31, 2007

okay. That's what I was thinking. thanks. Hey, one other thing. Can I keep the stock rims and get the 305's, because I think that my rims are 18x8 and the bfg's say it needs a 8.5 min.?

54warrior

· #12 · Oct 31, 2007

mjclarke4 said:
okay. That's what I was thinking. thanks. Hey, one other thing. Can I keep the stock rims and get the 305's, because I think that my rims are 18x8 and the bfg's say it needs a 8.5 min.?

Those will be fine.

I'm going to be putting 325/60R18's on my stock 18" rims when the time comes, which have an "approved rim width" of 9-12". Many others have done this without any problems. You'll be fine with your 305/60R18's.

mjclarke4

Discussion Starter · #13 · Oct 31, 2007

So is it like a liability thing, then? That's cool those 305's are 33's right?

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· #14 · Oct 31, 2007

If you are raising the stock suspension 1.5"-2.0", wouldn't that result in the rebound suspension travel being reduced? Have any of you noticed the suspension running out of travel in the rebound stroke when the suspension load is eliminated?

Blackbeauty

· #15 · Nov 1, 2007

Reality needs to be the benchmark here people.... I mean, really. If you are offroading, duning, racing, or otherwise maxing out your suspension travel, then just a spacer is NOT what you want..... For the purpose of leveling the truck up so the stance looks right, street driving, and light offroading, it's the shiznit. But don't expect to run the Baja 1000 with just a spacer! Please..... let's keep this all in perspective here.

mjclarke4

Discussion Starter · #16 · Nov 1, 2007

Well, then sign me up for some of the shiznit! That's exactly what I'm looking for.

Blackbeauty

· #17 · Nov 1, 2007

You won't be disappointed! :thumbsup: I LOVE the stance, and I LOVE THIS TRUCK!!!! Just cleaned her up real good last night and plan to take some fresh, current shots of her this afternoon. Watch my sig for updates....

54warrior

· #18 · Nov 1, 2007

Blackbeauty said:
Reality needs to be the benchmark here people.... I mean, really. If you are offroading, duning, racing, or otherwise maxing out your suspension travel, then just a spacer is NOT what you want..... For the purpose of leveling the truck up so the stance looks right, street driving, and light offroading, it's the shiznit. But don't expect to run the Baja 1000 with just a spacer! Please..... let's keep this all in perspective here.

That is honestly one of the most correct and honest statements that I've seen on here in quite awhile.:cheers:

mjclarke4

Discussion Starter · #19 · Nov 6, 2007

Just out of curiosity, what is the difference between the prg kit and the kits that I seen online elsewhere. For example, the NCD 2" leveling kit or the Top Gunz Custom leveling kit? I know that there are others, but I was just wondering about the billet ones. And I know that the PRG kit comes with bump stops which is nice. So I was wondering if anyone had any feedback on these other types or why I should go with prg. No disrespect intended to anyones product, just trying to get some info. Thanks.

54warrior

· #20 · Nov 6, 2007

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mjclarke4 said:
Just out of curiosity, what is the difference between the prg kit and the kits that I seen online elsewhere. For example, the NCD 2" leveling kit or the Top Gunz Custom leveling kit? I know that there are others, but I was just wondering about the billet ones. And I know that the PRG kit comes with bump stops which is nice. So I was wondering if anyone had any feedback on these other types or why I should go with prg. No disrespect intended to anyones product, just trying to get some info. Thanks.

The NCD is basically an exact copy of the PRG parts. The NCD doesn't come with bumpstops though. They sell it as a "loss leader" to hopefully win your future purchases. (They aren't making money selling it)

TopGunz kit is a welded together steel spacer. Doesn't come with bumpstops either.

Attached are, in order, PRG, NCD, TGC:

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