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Sorry for being long winded on this. I have a 05 Titan 4 wheel drive crewcab with 182,000 on it. Was running like a top the day I last drove it and the engine died like someone just pulled the plug on it. I was in heavy traffic and thank God I still had forward momentum and was able to pull over to the shoulder. Tried starting multiple times...nothing. At first thought I had a bad ECU relay and had a spare in my glovebox. Replaced it, nothing. Then thought it was the cam shaft sensor (I had experienced a bad sensor before). I had my truck towed back home and immediately changed the cam shaft sensor, still nothing. Then remembered about the IPDM going bad on these things, so I ordered one of the new black IPDM's to replace the old original white one. I knew this was the fix. Still nothing! Thought well how about the crank sensor, yep, replaced that too and still nothing. So much for my shooting in the dark troubleshooting. I then decided to try some starting fluid and once I sprayed it into the intake the engine came to life for a second. Hmmmm... fuel issue? I disconnected the fuel quick disconnect on the engine and when I did there was no fuel coming out. Dry as a bone. I turned the key to the "on" position and the fuel pump is supposed to spin and pressurizes the system for a second or two. I couldn't hear any fuel pump spinning and still no fuel out of the disconnected hose. I did this multiple times and then try just cranking the engine for 10 seconds or so. Starter would spin the engine but still no fuel from hose. My fuel gauge said 1/4 tank of gas by the way. So I figured it had to be the fuel pump. I did check for power at the connector (black wire with yellow stripe) on the IPDM for the fuel pump and yes I had power from the connector for a second or two (like it's supposed to) by watching my voltmeter while cycling the ignition switch to "on". (Therory of operation...After the engine starts, the cam shaft sensor sends a signal to the ECM that the engine is running and then the fuel pump stays energized. It's only when you turn ignition to the "on" position that the pump is initially energized for a second or two to pressurize the fuel circuit allowing the engine to start. If engine doesn't start, fuel pump does not keep spinning.) I pulled the rock shield off around my fuel tank and asked my wife to turn the key to only the "on" position. I finally was able to hear the pump spin for a second or two and quit. did this several times to make sure I wasn't hearing things. The pump is pretty quiet. So I knew I had power to the pump. I started to drop the tank and noticed it was pretty light, plus I was not able to siphon any gas out of the fuel tank when I disconnected the fuel filler hose (thought maybe the hose was not getting down into the area where the gas was!) I shook the tank and the damn thing was empty - dry as a bone. I had run out of gas! Nissan has a recall on the pump (NHTSA Campaign ID Number: (Recall #) 10V074000) for the 2005 - 2009 Titan and Armadas to replace the fuel sender unit inside the tank for this exact same reason. However when I called my dealership they looked up my VIN and said it was not one of the 2005 Titans that was supposed to have this repair done. I will be looking into this and contacting Nissan headquarters soon. So I have the tank removed, which was a little bit of a PITA due to the evap hose connector hard as crap to remove then to try and work on the top of the tank to remove the fuel line disconnect and electrical connector was a pain also. Especially working in your driveway with the truck jacked up in the rear end. I'm getting too old for this nonsense! I should have listened to my buddy and disconnected the bed on one side, loosen bolts on the other side and jack the bed up, but I'm a one man shop here. I have the new NISSAN factory fuel pump, hoping it will last longer than the AutoZone type cheap-o fuel pump assemblies. It was $325 online from Conyers Nissan and hope I never have to do this job again. I am putting it all back together this weekend and I let you know if it worked or not. I feel pretty confident this is my problem. Should have grabbed the bottle of starting fluid from the get-go. I would have more cash in my pocket now if I did!
 

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Re: Problem discovered? Nissan Titan Stopped Running/No Start Issue & Recall Issue.

Oh boy.
Titan status and the smoking baby avatar. I'll have you know that's a classic around here going back more than ten years.
Welcome to the site.
I have no idea what could be wrong with the truck. I lost it when I saw the avy.
 

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Re: Problem discovered? Nissan Titan Stopped Running/No Start Issue & Recall Issue.

2005 had a recall on the pump/sending unit for what you just described.
 

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Re: Problem discovered? Nissan Titan Stopped Running/No Start Issue & Recall Issue.

Worse case on this is to contact Nissan America, Corp. Offices. Had the recall listed for my '06 Frontier and the dealer said it wasn't part of the recall. Contacted them, did the dealer diagnostic (tank could be full but not registering, empty showing full or any combination), had the repair done, paid for it and sent the repair bill to Corporate. Got reimbursed for everything but the diagnostic which I had already determined the issue on before. Make sure that you let them know that the dealer (name, location, dealer ID) told you. Might be a good way for them to make a more solid base for new vehicles. I've been driving them since '78.
 

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Re: Problem discovered? Nissan Titan Stopped Running/No Start Issue & Recall Issue.

Thanks Walrus! I also cracked up when I saw someone else using the smoking baby avatar. I had to have it. If someone claims I stole it I'll get rid of it though!
 

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Re: Problem discovered? Nissan Titan Stopped Running/No Start Issue & Recall Issue.

Well, it seems like that the new (Nissan brand) fuel pump - or at least the new fuel sending unit- was the culprit. I installed new pump today, put the tank back in the truck (goes in a lot easier than removing it) put some gas in the tank and then primed the fuel circuit because it was dry as a bone from the tank to the injectors, and it fired right up.

Can't believe I ran outta gas! How embarrassing! Lesson learned, don't always rely on your gauges fellows. 1/4 tank of gas doesn't always mean 1/4 tank of gas. Sometimes it means you have a full tank of air, which makes your truck stop dead on a busy highway! Also, note to self... always do the basic troubleshooting first... Got Spark? Got Fuel? My insisting thought of well it's got to be the IPDM/Cam Sensor/Crank Sensor/ECU Relay is not in anyway the correct method! Well at least I have a bunch of new, unnecessary parts on my truck now, waiting for the next issue to pop up! :(

Oh by the way, I spoke to Nissan and they in fact said my VIN was not included in the recall campaign for the Fuel Pump/Fuel Sending Unit replacement. I could try to push it up to their consumer affairs dept. but for the age and mileage of my vehicle they said it most likely would not be approved.
 
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