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I Really like the part about the animal shelter. And the farm land with the Christmas Trees. But more so the animal shelter. That to me is just simply amazing. And it's for a good cause. All the money they save can be used to make a multi level facility to house a couple hundred more cats and dogs and the criminals will have something constructive to do and maybe knock some sense into them. Anywho, just thought I'd share.. it is what it is. :hi:

FromSHERIFF JOE IS AT IT AGAIN!

You all remember Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Arizona , who painted the jail cells pink and made the inmates wear pink prison garb. Well.........



SHERIFF JOE IS AT IT AGAIN!

Oh, there's MUCH more to know about Sheriff Joe!

Maricopa County was spending approx. $18 million dollars a year on stray animals, like cats and dogs. Sheriff Joe offered to take the department over, and the County Supervisors said okay.

The animal shelters are now all staffed and operated by prisoners. They feed and care for the strays. Every animal in his care is taken out and walked twice daily. He now has prisoners who are experts in animal nutrition and behavior. They give great classes for anyone who'd like to adopt an animal. He has literally taken stray dogs off the street, given them to the care of prisoners, and had them place in dog shows.

The best part? His budget for the entire department is now under $3 million. Teresa and I adopted a Weimaraner from a Maricopa County shelter two years ago. He was neutered, and current on all shots, in great health, and even had a microchip inserted the day we got him. Cost us $78.

The prisoners get the benefit of about $0.28 an hour for working, but most would work for free, just to be out of their cells for the day. Most of his budget is for utilities, building maintenance, etc. He pays the prisoners out of the fees collected for adopted animals.

I have long wondered when the rest of the country would take a look at the way he runs the jail system, and copy some of his ideas. He has a huge farm, donated to the county years ago, where inmates can work, and they grow most of their own fresh vegetables and food, doing all the work and harvesting by hand.

He has a pretty good sized hog farm, which provides meat, and fertilizer. It fertilizes the Christmas tree nursery, where prisoners work, and you can buy a living Christmas tree for $6 - $8 for the Holidays, and plant it later. We have six trees in our yard from the Prison.

Yup, he was reelected last year with 83% of the vote.
Now he's in trouble with the ACLU again. He painted all his buses and vehicles with a mural, that has a special hotline phone number painted on it, where you can call and report suspected illegal aliens. Immigrations and Customs Enforcement wasn't doing enough in his eyes, so he had 40 deputies trained specifically for enforcing immigration laws, started up his hotline, and bought 4 new buses just for hauling folks back to the border. He's kind of a 'Git-R Dun' kind of Sheriff.

TO THOSE OF YOU NOT FAMILIAR WITH JOE ARPAIO

HE IS THE MARICOPA ARIZONA COUNTY SHERIFF

AND HE KEEPS GETTING ELECTED OVER AND OVER
THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY:

Sheriff Joe Arpaio (In Arizona ) who created the ' Tent City Jail':
He has jail meals down to 40 cents a serving and charges the inmates for them.

He stopped smoking and porno magazines in the jails. Took away their weights Cut off all but 'G' movies.

He started chain gangs so the inmates could do free work on county and city projects.

Then He Started Chain Gangs For Women So He Wouldn't Get
Sued For Discrimination.

He took away cable TV Until he found out there was A Federal Court Order that Required Cable TV For Jails So He Hooked Up The Cable TV Again Only Let In The Disney Channel And The Weather Channel.

When asked why the weather channel He Replied, So They Will Know How Hot It's Gonna Be While They Are Working
ON My Chain Gangs.

He Cut Off Coffee Since It Has Zero Nutritional Value.

When the inmates complained, he told them, 'This Isn't The Ritz/Carlton......If You Don't Like It, Don't Come Back.'


More On The Arizona Sheriff:

With Temperatures Being Even Hotter Than Usual In Phoenix (116 Degrees Just Set A New Record), the Associated Press Reports:
About 2,000 Inmates Living In A Barbed-Wire-Surrounded Tent Encampment At The Maricopa County Jail Have Been Given Permission To Strip Down To Their Government-Issued
Pink Boxer Shorts.

On Wednesday, hundreds of men wearing boxers were either curled up on their bunk beds or chatted in the tents, which reached
138 Degrees Inside The Week Before.

Many Were Also Swathed In Wet, Pink Towels As Sweat Collected On Their Chests And Dripped Down To Their PINK SOCKS.

'It Feels Like We Are In A Furnace,' Said James Zanzot, An Inmate Who Has Lived In The TENTS for 1 year. 'It's Inhumane.'

Joe Arpaio, the tough-guy sheriff who created the tent city and long ago started making his prisoners wear pink, and eat bologna sandwiches, is not one bit sympathetic. He said Wednesday that he told all of the inmates: 'It's 120 Degrees In Iraq And Our Soldiers Are Living In Tents Too, And They Have To Wear Full Battle Gear,
But They Didn't Commit Any Crimes, So Shut Your Mouths!'

Way To Go, Sheriff!

Maybe if all prisons were like this one there would be a lot less crime and/or repeat offenders. Criminals should be punished for their crimes - not live in luxury until it's time for their parole, only to go out and commit another crime so they can get back in to live on taxpayers money and enjoy things taxpayers can't afford to have for themselves.

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While I wholeheartedly agree with his view on Prisons, they should be a place you don't want to go. However Sheriff Joe has done a few things that ca rub someone the wrong way. He wanted to create a border patrol checkpoint with 100% stop and search of all vehicles for drugs/illegals etc.. He had to be reminded of things like due process, illegal search and seizure and of course probable cause.

This guy has some fantastic ideas about how to treat felons, don't get me wrong. I am glad he is still the sheriff out there, perhaps some other people will pick up on it and start building prisons the way this guy does. I know I have mentioned it EVERY time they have asked us for money to build a new prison here in Tyler. He just needs to remember not everyone is a felon, and some people still have rights.
 

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I have seen footage of Sheriff Joe and although I like the general idea of what he's doing and believe that people who deprive others of their rights should suffer for it, I think Sheriff Joe is walking a fine line between the law and criminal behavior himself and should be careful not to violate peoples rights.

They are in fact rights, not privileges to be taken away at will because a law enforcement officer determines that you don't deserve your rights and although I don't believe that people who have deprived others of their rights deserve cable TV, they do deserve their basic rights and should not be deprived of those.

The use of force with discretion should be what LEO's strive for when confronted with any situation.
 

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I think Sheriff Joe is what every sheriff should be. Most every turd I take to jail has the same attitude: just lay it out until they make bond or get another suspended sentence.
Jail should be an uncomfortable place that one would not want to revisit. I like all the ideas he has in place.
The 100% search proposal is kind of over the line though. If you can justify the search, fine. But dont try to throw everyone under the same blanket.
 

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I think Sheriff Joe is what every sheriff should be. Most every turd I take to jail has the same attitude: just lay it out until they make bond or get another suspended sentence.
Jail should be an uncomfortable place that one would not want to revisit. I like all the ideas he has in place.
The 100% search proposal is kind of over the line though. If you can justify the search, fine. But dont try to throw everyone under the same blanket.
After researching the sheriff's activities and those of the MCSO, I'm going to have to strongly disagree and although I have no problem with housing inmates in tents and making their stay in prison a lot less than enjoyable, I disagree with the violations of civil rights that take place regularly under his jurisdiction and encouragement.

Even prisoners have certain rights and from the 43 million dollars worth of prison civil rights abuse awards that have been paid out by the MCSO and the other behaviors exhibited by sheriff Joe's department in the communities outside the limits of Tent City, I would feel quite safe in saying that Joe should spend some time in one of his own tents.

With friends to civil rights like sheriff Joe, the Constitution needs no enemies and no results justify some of the actions by the MCSO, they are turning that area of Arizona into a police State under the guise of public safety and he is a danger to us all and our rights guaranteed by the Constitution.
 

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I actually live in Phoenix az, and i love Joe. Every state should have someone like him.
I suppose as long as you reside in the white, uh... I mean right community or you aren't a convict, sheriff Joe could be considered a hero but to a large part of the community he is a nuisance and I believe he has little concern with the civil rights of either real or "perceived bad guys".

After watching a fair amount of film footage on this character and reading dozens of articles related to his department's civil rights abuses of the population at large, I think he is nothing more than a legal bully and although his methods may be applauded by a large portion of the community, it doesn't make many of his actions or those of the MCSO any less disturbing or legal.

Effective law enforcement is one thing, "selective" law enforcement and civil rights abuses are quite another matter and the violation of one law to enforce another is unacceptable, hypocritical and illegal, not to mention brutal and cold blooded in many cases.

Who is this Bozo and his band of clowns to determine which laws are to be followed and which ones aren't? He appears to consider himself above the law in this respect and I'll protect myself if he is the alternative. Thanks but no thanks, you can have this legalized version of a gangster, I have no use for him and he is a modern day Roy Bean as far as I'm concerned.

If it were an isolated incident, that would be one thing but the MCSO shows a pattern of abuse and when police become cold blooded and brutal, I have no use for them and would as soon suffer at the hands of a criminal without a badge. Just because someone is locked up does not mean they can be abused or killed by deputies of the MCSO, there is no excuse for it or police brutality in general.

Here is a small sampling of the civil rights abuses that have made the MCSO infamous among civil liberty proponents and although I couldn't find the original video of the MSCO's abuse against the guy in a wheel chair, I bet it looked something like the video I attached.


YouTube - Deputy Dumps Man From Wheelchair

Richard Post
Richard Post was a paraplegic inmate arrested in 1996 for possession of marijuana and criminal trespass. Post was placed in a restraint chair by guards and his neck was broken in the process. The event, caught on video, shows guards smiling and laughing while Post is being injured. Because of his injuries, Post has lost much of the use of his arms.[59] Post settled his claims against the Sheriff's office for $800,000.[60]

Scott Norberg
One major controversy includes the 1996 death of inmate Scott Norberg, a former Brigham Young University football wide receiver, who died while in custody of the Sheriff's office.[53] Norberg was arrested for assaulting a police officer in Mesa, Arizona, after neighbors in a residential area had reported a delirious man walking in their neighborhood.[54] Arpaio's office repeatedly claimed Norberg was also high on methamphetamine, but a blood toxicology performed post-mortem was inconclusive. Norberg did, however, have methamphetamine in his urine, proving that he had used the drug at some point fairly recently before his death. During his internment, evidence suggests detention officers shocked Norberg several times with a stun-gun. According to an investigation by Amnesty International, Norberg was already handcuffed and face down when officers dragged him from his cell and placed him in a restraint chair with a towel covering his face. After Norberg's corpse was discovered, detention officers accused Norberg of attacking them as they were trying to restrain him. The cause of his death, according to the Maricopa County medical examiner, was due to "positional asphyxia". Sheriff Arpaio investigated and subsequently cleared detention officers of any criminal wrongdoing.[55]

Norberg’s parents filed a lawsuit against Arpaio and his office. The lawsuit was settled for $8.25 million (USD).[56]


[edit] Brian Crenshaw
Brian Crenshaw was a legally blind and mentally disabled inmate who suffered fatal injuries while being held in Maricopa Country Jail.

Crenshaw's family filed a lawsuit against Arpaio and his office, which resulted in an award of $2 million.[57] As in the Scott Norberg case, it was alleged that Arpaio's office destroyed evidence in the case. In the Crenshaw case, the attorney who represented the case before a jury alleged digital video evidence was destroyed.[58]


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[edit] Jeremy Flanders
In 1996, Jeremy Flanders was attacked by inmates at Tent City who used rebar tent stakes, which were not concreted into the ground. Although these stakes had been used as weapons in a previous riot at the facility, the Sheriff's office chose not to secure them properly. During the trial, the plaintiff "presented evidence that, among other things, the Sheriff and his deputies had actual knowledge that prisoners used rebar tent stakes and tent poles as weapons and did nothing to prevent it." Furthermore, "the Sheriff admitted knowing about, and in fact intentionally designing, some conditions at Tent City that created a substantial risk of inmate violence." After the attack: "another inmate entered the tent and found Flanders unconscious, gasping for air, and spewing blood out of his mouth, nose and ears. Flanders had been bloodied and beaten so badly that the other inmate initially did not recognize Flanders." Flanders suffered permanent brain damage as a result of the attack. On appeal, Flanders was awarded $635,532, of which Arpaio was personally responsible for thirty-five percent.[19]
 

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Joe likes the publicity that things like pink underwear brings.
But, Joe's going to get expensive now that the MCSO's insurance
deductible was raised from $1 million to $5 million.
 

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your only hate him if you spent time in jail, so stay out................
 

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your only hate him if you spent time in jail, so stay out................
Yeah I suppose you are right and Mexican men who are in jail for a DUI arrest do need to be beaten and tortured to death. Funny thing is that although the guy spoke no English, the English speaking guards had no problem communicating with him, they played Morse code on his ribs with elbow blows while he was handcuffed and communicated just fine with a tazer about a dozen times in a row, I think an interpretor might have been a better idea though because communicating effectively doesn't usually cause someone's death.

For those who are interested and don't want to read the whole article, the man was in fact a US citizen and was in jail for DUI but was sick and sent to the infirmary after a seizure. Against recommendations, he was sent back to general population after being given a seizure drug that can cause hallucinations and dementia and upon exhibiting signs of confusion and being generally uncooperative but not violent, he was essentially tortured and beaten to death by guards over the course of several hours.

This is America folks and this guy was not some rapist, child molester or murderer, he was a drunk that didn't happen to speak English but he didn't come close to deserving being beaten to death over it. The guards behaved like a gang of punks and should be inmates in Tent City along with the sheriff who withheld evidence in this case.

Say what you want folks but these are scary gangsters with badges to protect them against prosecution for violating the laws they are sworn to uphold and a disgrace to good LEO's everywhere.


Phoenix News - Sheriff Joe Arpaio's Own Records Raise Serious Questions About Inmate Juan Mendoza Farias' Violent Death - page 1
 

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So if that same drunk mexican wasnt pulled over that night but instead passed out at the wheel and ran into a mini van with a family of 4 in it would he deserve to have the **** kicked out of him then? I think you fail to recognize that if you simply dont go to jail, you wont have to deal with Arpaio and his boys. Are you an advocate to **** ups or what?
 

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So if that same drunk mexican wasnt pulled over that night but instead passed out at the wheel and ran into a mini van with a family of 4 in it would he deserve to have the **** kicked out of him then? I think you fail to recognize that if you simply dont go to jail, you wont have to deal with Arpaio and his boys. Are you an advocate to **** ups or what?
I have had many close friends and relatives killed by drunk drivers so you are preaching to the choir in that respect.

In regard to staying out of jail to avoid the violation of my rights, you are right, all people in jail are guilty as charged and deserve what they get at the hands of steroid pumped police officers who have to uphold law and order, I don't know what I was thinking by standing up for this swine.

The first video I've attached involves an incident over breakfast at the local jail here in my county and was handled correctly. The LEO tried to relive the inmate of the additional breakfast and when verbally confronted, was well within his rights to beat the crap out of that upstart convict, what a dirt bag, thinking he could get extra breakfast, the nerve of some people.

The second video shows that you don't have to go to prison to be properly punished for civil disobedience and it's nice that it can be handled in a quick and effective manner by LEO's using proper police procedure and a little discretion. This felon needs to learn what's good for him and lay there and take it or there will be plenty more where that came from. That's OK, he made the mistake of biting one of the guys and will get what's coming to him in prison once the officers are informed that he is charged with assault on their fellow LEO's.

The third video shows three officers handling a situation with a motorist who fled the scene of a minor accident with good judgment, proper restraint and text book maneuvers. Who does that idiot think he is to resist the lawful arrest of a hard core criminal like him?

The fourth video shows obstruction of a law enforcement officer by a reporter who, when refusing to give up his camera when instructed, was relieved of it in a lawful manner. Who do these reporters think they are? Don't they know that video cameras hurt the effectiveness of LEO's everywhere by misrepresenting some of them as being lawless hooligans with badges, the nerve of that guy.

When will these people learn that LEO's need a little latitude when determining how to handle criminals, they are after all just trying to protect us from the lawless that seek to do us harm...

YouTube - Police brutality

YouTube - Shocking police brutality on war hero Mark Aspinall

YouTube - Police Brutality

YouTube - Cops Steal Journalists Camera 1st & 4th Ammendment Violations
 

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My nephew spent 18 months in the care of Sheriff Joe.
It was the best thing that ever happened to him.
 

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My nephew spent 18 months in the care of Sheriff Joe.
It was the best thing that ever happened to him.
I'm happy to hear he made it out alive...
 
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