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This is the first I've heard about it. Who is making it?
 

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Sorry I had it confused with the extended travel kit. im trying to figure out how much lift i need to clear 35's with 20 inch rims..
 

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Sorry I had it confused with the extended travel kit. im trying to figure out how much lift i need to clear 35's with 20 inch rims..
a leveling kit and a pinch weld mod with stock wheels
 

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Sorry I had it confused with the extended travel kit. im trying to figure out how much lift i need to clear 35's with 20 inch rims..
size of rims don't account for anything, the tire is 35 inches on an 18, 20 or 22 inch rim.

going with the leveling kit and PWM as suggested above.
 

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I already have a leveling kit with 33.12.50's And 18 inch rims, and they rub when I turn all the way. and it doesnt even really sit level. Im trying to run some pretty deep 20's on 35's. Maybe if I replace the shocks?
 

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In order to run 35's with a leveling kit you need to use stock rims or aftermarket rims with the same width, and the same or a little more backspacing, like 5.75", and be willing to trim a little at the pinch weld. With rims that are wider and/or have a smaller backspacing than stock, you will need more lift or have to stay with a shorter tire.

What 20" rims and 35" tires do you want to run?
 

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I want to run either the Pro Comp 6001 or KMC XD diesel with trail grapplers. I was thinking I would have to go up at least four inches.
 

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The trouble with the 20" Diesels I see are they're 10" wide with 4.56" backspacing, (BS), so will stick out 3" more than stock, and will rub with 35's even with a 6" bracket lift. A friend needed the pinch weld mod even with 9" width rims with 4.5" BS with his Pro Comp stage 1 lift for 35x12.5 BFG KM M/T's. With a Diesel in a 18", they have them available in 9" width with a more tucked in 5" backspacing so a 35x12.5 will fit with only possible trimming on a bracket lift.

The Pro Comp 6001 Chrome is available in a 20x9 with 4.5" BS, which is better than the 10" Diesels, but still as bad as the friends' rims on his Pro Comp lift that rubbed. So for any of the rims mentioned, you're going to be better off with a bracket lift, but the 10" would still be a tough fit.

With a 3" body lift plus leveling kit, the 18x9 with 5.0" BS, and a lot of trimming, you could probably do it. I saw the 17x7.5" off road rims with 35's on that combination, (no rubbing), but the 18x9's with 5.0: BS, would be sticking out another 1.9". :huh:

The KMC XD Hoss Chrome, (Series XD795), or the KMC XD Badlands, (Series XD779), would work better, but still need some trimming.
20" x 9" +18mm offset 5.71" backspacing Bolt Pattern 6x139.7, (6 on 5.5"). Either only sticks out 1.25" more than the off road rims.

The best aftermarket 20" fit though, (I could find), is the KMC XD SPY Chrome, (Series XD797). 20x8.5" with +18mm offset 5.46" backspacing. It would only stick out 1" more than the off road rims. So 3" body lift plus the current 2" leveling kit, and some new Bilstein HD struts.

You could instead get the Bilstein 5100's and set the spring perch to the middle setting for 1.5" and might be able to still run your 2" leveling kit for about 3.25" front lift, and with the Spys, and some major trimming, make the 35's fit.

If you click on the Pinch Weld Mod link in my sig, it shows the trimming I needed with wheels that stick out 1.4" more than the stock off road rims, with a shorter 34" A/T tire. These were also narrower being a 305. So, besides the Spy's, I would recommend the new 34" 295/60R20 size in Trail Grapplers.

20" Trail Grapplers:
35x12.50R20LT E 121Q 35.04x13.39 8.5-(10.0)-11.0
LT295/60R20 E 126Q My estimate 34.0x12.0 Coming Jan. 2011 ... Easier to fit

18" Trail Grapplers:
35x12.50R18LT E 123Q 35.04x13.39 8.5-(10.0)-11.0
LT295/70R18 E 129/126Q 34.57x11.73 7.5-(8.5)-10.0 ... Easier to fit
 

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The trouble with the 20" Diesels I see are they're 10" wide with 4.56" backspacing, (BS), so will stick out 3" more than stock, and will rub with 35's even with a 6" bracket lift. A friend needed the pinch weld mod even with 9" width rims with 4.5" BS with his Pro Comp stage 1 lift for 35x12.5 BFG KM M/T's. With a Diesel in a 18", they have them available in 9" width with a more tucked in 5" backspacing so a 35x12.5 will fit with only possible trimming on a bracket lift.

The Pro Comp 6001 Chrome is available in a 20x9 with 4.5" BS, which is better than the 10" Diesels, but still as bad as the friends' rims on his Pro Comp lift that rubbed. So for any of the rims mentioned, you're going to be better off with a bracket lift, but the 10" would still be a tough fit.

With a 3" body lift plus leveling kit, the 18x9 with 5.0" BS, and a lot of trimming, you could probably do it. I saw the 17x7.5" off road rims with 35's on that combination, (no rubbing), but the 18x9's with 5.0: BS, would be sticking out another 1.9". :huh:

The KMC XD Hoss Chrome, (Series XD795), or the KMC XD Badlands, (Series XD779), would work better, but still need some trimming.
20" x 9" +18mm offset 5.71" backspacing Bolt Pattern 6x139.7, (6 on 5.5"). Either only sticks out 1.25" more than the off road rims.

The best aftermarket 20" fit though, (I could find), is the KMC XD SPY Chrome, (Series XD797). 20x8.5" with +18mm offset 5.46" backspacing. It would only stick out 1" more than the off road rims. So 3" body lift plus the current 2" leveling kit, and some new Bilstein HD struts.

You could instead get the Bilstein 5100's and set the spring perch to the middle setting for 1.5" and might be able to still run your 2" leveling kit for about 3.25" front lift, and with the Spys, and some major trimming, make the 35's fit.

If you click on the Pinch Weld Mod link in my sig, it shows the trimming I needed with wheels that stick out 1.4" more than the stock off road rims, with a shorter 34" A/T tire. These were also narrower being a 305. So, besides the Spy's, I would recommend the new 34" 295/60R20 size in Trail Grapplers.

20" Trail Grapplers:
35x12.50R20LT E 121Q 35.04x13.39 8.5-(10.0)-11.0
LT295/60R20 E 126Q My estimate 34.0x12.0 Coming Jan. 2011 ... Easier to fit

18" Trail Grapplers:
35x12.50R18LT E 123Q 35.04x13.39 8.5-(10.0)-11.0
LT295/70R18 E 129/126Q 34.57x11.73 7.5-(8.5)-10.0 ... Easier to fit
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Thanks man. Im thinking about throwing the 5100's on it, do you think that would clear the trail grappler 34" with 20" rims? or maybe even some 33" tires
 

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Thanks man. Im thinking about throwing the 5100's on it, do you think that would clear the trail grappler 34" with 20" rims? or maybe even some 33" tires
With leveled up to 4", [when I did the pinch weld mod on my Titan, it was at 2.5". Later I had it at 4" and the clearance wasn't that much better. I was expecting more anyway]:
  1. 10" wide with about 4.5 backspacing like the Diesels ... won't clear even with 33's. Probably have to trim the bumper cowls too.
  2. 9" wide with about 4.5" BS, like the Pro Comps ... won't clear even with 33's ... would work with the pinch weld mod with 33's, maybe with the 34.0's with a lot of trimming.
  3. 8.5" wide with about 5.5" BS, like the KMC XD SPY Chrome, (Series XD797). 20x8.5" with +18mm offset 5.46" backspacing ... 35's with major trimming at the pinch weld, 34's probably mudguard removal, fender reshape, and a good chance of a light pwm, but with the Trail Grappler in the LT305/55R20 33.4x12.2", (on an 8.5" rim), I think it would clear, maybe just mudguard removal or modifying, and fender liner heat and reshape. but probably no pwm, [unless your Titan's caster alignment has your front wheels too far back]. To be extra safe, the LT295/55R20 32.91x12.12", (on an 8.5" rim), would not rub on the Spy, or rims with it's specs.
  4. 8.5" with with 6" BS, like the American Racing Marin, Chrome, 20x8.5" +30mm offset 5.93" BS. This would give the most clearance at the pinch weld, but is tucked in enough that I would not try a 35x12.5 or a 325 on it, because the tire might rub on something like the spindle, UCA, etc. But the 34" LT295/60R20 might clear, so if you can test fit locally to make sure it has enough inner clearance, even when you air down to 12 psi for sand or snow.
 
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