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Hi there, I’m new to the forum and am currently thinking about switching to a Nissan truck coming from a 2016 Chevy Silverado. I’ve heard a lot of good and bad things about the Titans so I don’t know what to think. First off, I’m considering both the Titan and the Titan XD. Not sure which I want to go with but even the XD is about the same size as my current Silverado…just a few inches longer. My main question would be, should I go with the Titan w/ the 5.6 L gas engine paired with the 7-Speed Transmission or the Titan XD with the 5.0 Cummins Turbo Diesel paired with the 6-Speed Aisin transmission? The regular Titan can handle my towing needs without a problem but reliability is my biggest consideration hence why I’m also considering the XD. Are there any pros and cons of going with either? The fact that the XD is pretty small conpared to other 3/4 tons makes it pretty appealing. If I’m not mistaken, is the 6-Speed Aisin also used in the Tundra? Love some input on this!

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Honestly the regular Titan is a pretty reliable truck from all accounts I’ve been given. The 5.6L motor and its accompanying drive line components are all pretty excellent.

The XD is not a 3/4 ton though. The little 5.0 cummins and the truck itself don’t quite keep up. It’s more heavy duty than a half ton, but not quite a 3/4. If you need a real 3/4 ton pickup then I’d buy Chevy or Ford.

If you’d like something more like a beefed up half ton then the XD is your truck. It’s all about personal requirements. Most folks don’t even use their half ton trucks to the potential of a soccer mom van. So what does it matter at that point. lol.
 

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Honestly the regular Titan is a pretty reliable truck from all accounts I’ve been given. The 5.6L motor and its accompanying drive line components are all pretty excellent.

The XD is not a 3/4 ton though. The little 5.0 cummins and the truck itself don’t quite keep up. It’s more heavy duty than a half ton, but not quite a 3/4. If you need a real 3/4 ton pickup then I’d buy Chevy or Ford.

If you’d like something more like a beefed up half ton then the XD is your truck. It’s all about personal requirements. Most folks don’t even use their half ton trucks to the potential of a soccer mom van. So what does it matter at that point. lol.
Like I said a 1/2 ton will suit me just fine towing my 7000 lbs horse tailers and flatbeds but I just really like the "brand" of the XD haha. Cummins and Aisin just sound reliable to me :laugh: How do the 5.6 Liters hold up in the long run?
 

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Honestly the regular Titan is a pretty reliable truck from all accounts I’ve been given. The 5.6L motor and its accompanying drive line components are all pretty excellent.

The XD is not a 3/4 ton though. The little 5.0 cummins and the truck itself don’t quite keep up. It’s more heavy duty than a half ton, but not quite a 3/4. If you need a real 3/4 ton pickup then I’d buy Chevy or Ford.

If you’d like something more like a beefed up half ton then the XD is your truck. It’s all about personal requirements. Most folks don’t even use their half ton trucks to the potential of a soccer mom van. So what does it matter at that point. lol.
Like I said a 1/2 ton will suit me just fine towing my 7000 lbs horse tailers and flatbeds but I just really like the "brand" of the XD haha. Cummins and Aisin just sound reliable to me <img src="http://www.titantalk.com/forums/images/TitanTalk/smilies/tango_face_smile_big.png" border="0" alt="" title="Laugh" class="inlineimg" /> How do the 5.6 Liters hold up in the long run?
I asked a few guys before I bought mine (only have 8,500 on it since October). Nobody had any complaints about the 5.6. Most of the Titans I see with problems don’t have any issues with the motor or drive line consistently. I’ve seen a few problems with the rear ends on older 10+ year old trucks becoming a minor trend. Which isn’t actually all that bad

With dodge’s it’s the drive line with issues... transmission, differentials, transfer cases, etc..

With Ford it’s the motors. Head gaskets, timing chains, etc...

I haven’t ever noticed a concistent trend with Chevy, Nissan, or Toyota truck problems. Sure they have problems here and there. All vehicles do. But nothing that shows up consistently to me.
 

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The 5.6 is 10x more reliable than the 5.0 because of all Emissions crap on Diesel's these days.
With that size of trailer you would love the stability of the XD, just get the Gasser.
 

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The 5.6 is 10x more reliable than the 5.0 because of all Emissions crap on Diesel's these days.
With that size of trailer you would love the stability of the XD, just get the Gasser.
What emission crap are you refering to? I'm not that familiar with diesel engines...
 

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I asked a few guys before I bought mine (only have 8,500 on it since October). Nobody had any complaints about the 5.6. Most of the Titans I see with problems don’t have any issues with the motor or drive line consistently. I’ve seen a few problems with the rear ends on older 10+ year old trucks becoming a minor trend. Which isn’t actually all that bad

With dodge’s it’s the drive line with issues... transmission, differentials, transfer cases, etc..

With Ford it’s the motors. Head gaskets, timing chains, etc...

I haven’t ever noticed a concistent trend with Chevy, Nissan, or Toyota truck problems. Sure they have problems here and there. All vehicles do. But nothing that shows up consistently to me.
Thanks for the input, as for your comments on Chevy, I can attest that the GM trucks have consistant electrical issues and head/lifter issues since the AFM cylinder deactivation system have been added. Just to clarify, none of the Titans come with such cylinder deactivation or start stop gizmos right?
 

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There is no cylinder deactivation or start/stop on Titan. I know of many people that are getting them just for that reason.

I have 40k miles on my 5.6 and haven't had an issue. I have read that the 5.6 is pretty bomb proof. The transmission may be the weak point on both the 5.6 and the Diesel though. Time will tell. There have been many complaints about the Nissan Transmissions, and I have experienced some of them... but most of them are blown way out of proportion. With the 7-speed on my truck, as expected, it grabs the wrong gear sometimes. The more gears you have the more likely you are to have weird problems. I know many people that constantly complain about the 8, 9, and 10 speeds in the other manufacturers trucks. It seems to be a wash from that standpoint.

I have heard people say that the diesel is under powered and the Aisin transmission isn't well mated. I know they were having quite a few problems with the first ones off the lines, but I haven't heard much bad speak about them of late.

Just my opinion, but I love my 5.6 Pro4x better then any of the other half to one ton trucks that I have driven (all of them). In your case, I might go for the XD since I like more weight buffer for towing. and the XD will give you 5000 pounds of extra capacity.
 

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Yeah, the XD does come in a gas model as well. Which gives a little bump to the 5.6 in towing capacity.

They all (regular Titan and XD) come with trailer brakes if you get the appropriate package and honestly we didn’t have trouble pulling a 6k enclosed trailer. The built in trailer brake system worked great for us. They also have the trailer light check function so you can check all your lights right quick without anybody else helping you!
 

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The 5.6 L has been in the Titan since 2004. Granted they have done updates to the motor to move it from 315 hp in the previous titan to 395 in the current model. To have the same motor in production that long tells me they got it right. The longevity of the motor alone was confidence enough for me to purchase our Titan. I have not been disappointed with the motor and tranny in my 2017 Pro-4X.
 

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The 5.6 is 10x more reliable than the 5.0 because of all Emissions crap on Diesel's these days.
With that size of trailer you would love the stability of the XD, just get the Gasser.
What emission crap are you refering to? I'm not that familiar with diesel engines...
New Diesels have lots of added on restrictive parts in them on top of requiring exhaust fluid now. All to help reduce the amount of pollution they make but it is a lot harder on the engine and truck as a whole.

The only reason to buy a diesel is for frequent pulling of heavy trailers.

I think the half ton diesel idea is a horrible one.

Diesels used to get slightly better fuel mileage and the motors typically lasted longer. Today they get the same mileage in most cases and they don’t last any better than a good gasoline motor.

Diesel also used to be cheaper in most places but now is more expensive in most places by a good margin and not at every gas station.
 

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Hi there, I’m new to the forum and am currently thinking about switching to a Nissan truck coming from a 2016 Chevy Silverado. I’ve heard a lot of good and bad things about the Titans so I don’t know what to think. First off, I’m considering both the Titan and the Titan XD. Not sure which I want to go with but even the XD is about the same size as my current Silverado…just a few inches longer. My main question would be, should I go with the Titan w/ the 5.6 L gas engine paired with the 7-Speed Transmission or the Titan XD with the 5.0 Cummins Turbo Diesel paired with the 6-Speed Aisin transmission? The regular Titan can handle my towing needs without a problem but reliability is my biggest consideration hence why I’m also considering the XD. Are there any pros and cons of going with either? The fact that the XD is pretty small conpared to other 3/4 tons makes it pretty appealing. If I’m not mistaken, is the 6-Speed Aisin also used in the Tundra? Love some input on this!

Cheers,
Victor

I went through similar analysis before when considering the two versions and came up with my own opinions between the two based on test drives and research;

Titan XD

1. Heavier frame and higher towing capacity (but not quite 3/4-ton as others have mentioned)
2. More significant "road presence"
3. Easier to modify due to more available aftermarket (looks great with only mild lift)
4. A little sluggish compared to the 5.6L 1/2-ton (for reasons above)
5. Drive ride a bit stiffer (but still good) with heavier turn-in feel
6. Sits higher so front end not as clunky looking (but hate the funky fender badging)

Titan non-XD

1. Less towing/hauling capacity
2. Significantly more "tossable" with better drive feel/comfort due to lighter frame
3. Per above, more enjoyable to drive as 5.6L/7-Spd combo is very responsive (especially off the line)
4. Less aftermarket options
5. Small lifts hardly noticeable with inherent lower frame and front end design
6. 1/2-ton versions look more like F150s (I know, had a few but not a bad thing really)


In the end, I was looking for a slightly smaller full-size truck that can still haul some for weekend chores, enjoyable to drive on daily basis, but still capable and tossable for off-roading fun on trails so the solution for me was the non-XD PRO 4X.
 

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From all the suggestions I think the regular Titan with the gas engine should be the ideal truck. I'll see if I can find one near where I live otherwise might have to travel a little bit. These Nissans are damn hard to find, them Fords seem to be everywhere. The biggest selling point for me on the Titan was the hydraulic steering. I drive through a lot of mud, rain, and snow so I don't need my steering wheel seizing up on the damn freeway. These new trucks (Ford, Chevy, Ram) seem to be filled with so much tech it honestly feels unsafe. I do wish the Titan had a key ignition though, my only gripe (there ain't nothin manly about pushing a button haha).
 

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From all the suggestions I think the regular Titan with the gas engine should be the ideal truck. I'll see if I can find one near where I live otherwise might have to travel a little bit. These Nissans are damn hard to find, them Fords seem to be everywhere. The biggest selling point for me on the Titan was the hydraulic steering. I drive through a lot of mud, rain, and snow so I don't need my steering wheel seizing up on the damn freeway. These new trucks (Ford, Chevy, Ram) seem to be filled with so much tech it honestly feels unsafe. I do wish the Titan had a key ignition though, my only gripe (there ain't nothin manly about pushing a button haha).
If you’re going to be driving down some rough roads frequently I’d look at the Pro-4x. It comes with some halfway decent all terrain tires and better suspension. It’s got bill stein struts on it. It’s not a ford raptor but it’s a pretty darn good ride for a truck in this Priceline. I think the Pro-4x sits an inch or so higher than an SV or SL as well. And it has an electronically locking rear differential if you get stuck in the mud real good... also has a few skid plates under the motor, transmission, transfer case, etc...

And the push button will grow on you. Less problems IMO and it’s easier to just get in and go with the keys still in your pocket. Never lock your keys in the truck again...
 

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If you’re going to be driving down some rough roads frequently I’d look at the Pro-4x. And it has an electronically locking rear differential if you get stuck in the mud real good... also has a few skid plates under the motor, transmission, transfer case, etc...
Do the SL midnights and Platnium Reserves not come with the rear differential lock?
 

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If you’re going to be driving down some rough roads frequently I’d look at the Pro-4x. And it has an electronically locking rear differential if you get stuck in the mud real good... also has a few skid plates under the motor, transmission, transfer case, etc...
Do the SL midnights and Platnium Reserves not come with the rear differential lock?
I have no idea on that. It may come standard or as an option. I’d ask the dealer and then check. Sometimes they’ll tell you “yeah it’s got that” then you find out a day later that it doesn’t.

The differential lock is bellow and to the left of the steering wheel in the control cluster for the lights, fog lights, etc...

I think the Pro-4x comes with all the same options as the SL but just with a different appearance. I couldn’t find any features the fully loaded SL had that the fully loaded Pro-4x didn’t. The SL just has chrome and the Pro-4x has either a monotone or a two tone.
 

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Do you guys know if the Titan has a hidden key ignition somewhere (maybe behind the push button)? How do you start the truck if lets say you drop your key fob and it breaks? I'm really a stickler on dependability so I don't like to trust any of the electronic gadgets.
 

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Do you guys know if the Titan has a hidden key ignition somewhere (maybe behind the push button)? How do you start the truck if lets say you drop your key fob and it breaks? I'm really a stickler on dependability so I don't like to trust any of the electronic gadgets.
I’ve wondered this too. Anybody know?

My buddy’s ford has a key slot in the glove box where he sticks the regular key and the push button will work for instances like you just described.
 

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I have no idea on that. It may come standard or as an option. I’d ask the dealer and then check. Sometimes they’ll tell you “yeah it’s got that” then you find out a day later that it doesn’t.

The differential lock is bellow and to the left of the steering wheel in the control cluster for the lights, fog lights, etc...

I think the Pro-4x comes with all the same options as the SL but just with a different appearance. I couldn’t find any features the fully loaded SL had that the fully loaded Pro-4x didn’t. The SL just has chrome and the Pro-4x has either a monotone or a two tone.
Correct; also, if you go with the PRO-Utility, Convenience, LED, and Premium packages then you will spec'd closer to a Plat (as will the price too). The PRO also includes Hill Start Assist/Hill Descent Control and a 4x4 gauge cluster which is useful too.
 
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