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Towing upgrades - Any suggestions

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Well the stars all aligned this weekend and we made two big purchases. First I found a buyer for my '06 titan and I upgraded to an '08.5 LE LWB 4x4 with big tow.
The same day we also found a screaming deal on a 'new' trailer (sold our old '92 trailer a couple of weeks ago). We ended up getting an '09 Kingsport 295 QB. This trailer is longer than I was hoping to get, but the LWB Titan should help. The GVWR rating on the trailer is 7950 lbs. ('dry' is around 6000). List on the trailer is $20k and we got it for $12.9k. Cheapest I could find one anywhere in the country is over $15k, and this is brand new, just an older model year.

Anyway, this set up is quite a bit different than my short wheelbase titan and the 24' trailer (though trailer weight isn't a LOT different). My biggest worry is the length of the trailer. Any suggestions?? I do have an Equalizer brand hitch that is rated for 12k lbs, and the dealership is going to set it up properly for the trailer, so I should be good to go there.

I hope to take a photo or two later this week when I take delivery of the trailer and will post it to that other thread soon.
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Just take your time and do a real good set-up on whatever hitch you use...
The dealership is going to set the hitch up for me and adjust it correctly, so I'm not worried about that part. Just want to make sure that, with a trailer that long, the 'tail doesn't start wagging the dog'. :) I also want to make sure I don't overwork the truck as it is a bit heavier than my old one, but I've seen people on here towing heavier.
Maybe look at a friction sway-bar.
I only have a 24' trailer but I put one one. "Elmer the Safety Elephant" moment I guess - but I'm not concerned about swaying anymore.
Yeah, I'm ok that way. The equalizer brand hitch does both weight distribution AND sway control. Heading to the dealership today to pick up the trailer and have the equalizer properly adjusted to match the truck and trailer.
Something that could also help with sway is Airbags and better tires.
Ok, so I brought the trailer home. It is a load, but towed ok. However, the back-end of the truck is down quite a ways. Nearly bottomed out. So about the airbags......what is the best brand to get and where is the best place to get them? How much can I expect to spend? Part numbers would help as well. How hard are they to install? I'm thinking I will be doing this during this week.
Some like Firestone air bags but I dont ...

I have Airlift air bags and if you are technical and have a battery drill this should be easy.

I got mine form Summit but PRG has them as well. (PRG) is a sponsor and knows his stuff (his name is Greg).

Link: Air Lift 59554 - Air Lift Ride Control Kits - Overview - SummitRacing.com
I also have the compressor and gauge: Air Lift 25592 - Air Lift Load Controller II Systems - Overview - SummitRacing.com

Enjoy

So what is the difference between the two brands? Why do you like the one over the other?

I noticed one post said the ride with the firestones was worse when not towing. Couldn't you just air down the bags and the ride should be the same as it was without them?
Dang. Wish I knew someone out here that could set it up correctly. This was set up by the dealership, but if they are really that far off, I really don't want to take it back to them and have them 'adjust' it.
I have my trailer set correctly, I did this myself and I understand how to do it. I will tell you the 40PSI in the bags helps a lot. At 40PSI I gain ~ 3 inches of lift and then every 5 PSI I get about 1/2 inch.

Why Airlift: I have both Firestone and Airlift. Airlift makes the ride better, even when you don't have a load, just air them down to between 9-10 PSI. Firestone you need to have some extra weight in the bed of the truck all the time, or the ride is crappy. The Firestone bags are good, don't get me wrong, but I would not want them on a daily driver!

I think the reason for the above is the placement of the bags.


Well if you were out here in Utah I might have to hire you to set up the equalizer and airbags. :)
I decided I wasn't going to mess with having the dealer try to set it up....

I added 3 washers (total 7) and brought the L brackets up one notch. It made quite a bit of difference, but there is still a little way to go. It does sit better.

I did order a set of airbag from someone on this site and will be installing those as well.
I decided I wasn't going to mess with having the dealer try to set it up....

I added 3 washers (total 7) and brought the L brackets up one notch. It made quite a bit of difference, but there is still a little way to go. It does sit better.

I did order a set of airbag from someone on this site and will be installing those as well.
So, for anyone following this thread...here are the results. After a lot of adjustments the rear was still sagging and there was only about 1 1/2" clearance on the bumper stops (on the rear suspension). I wasn't comfortable with this so I installed the air bags before the trip. They were surprisingly easy, though they took a few hours to do all the wrenching, etc. I placed the air chucks into the metal piece that also holds the trailer wiring bracket on the back.

These made a world of difference. Not only in the stance of the truck but the handling, etc, etc.

I'm very happy with the difference the air bags made, and happy with the good price I got thanks to someone on this site!

As for towing, you really feel the trailer back there, but I did make it up some 6-8% grades in 2nd gear and right about 40 mph. Went up and over several mountains on this trip. No idea what the gas mileage was, and I'm not sure I want to know, but I feel much better about this truck/trailer combo now that I have the air bags on there.
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