[Charney103]

hello everyone i have a 2005 RWD titan LE with just over 170,000 miles minimal rust no major issues and regularly maintained from dealer since new on car fox, im currently popping codes for my cats an manifolds ive been reading up on the up rev tune kit with full pipes motor to tip, but i dont want to drop the 1500 just to blow my truck up, is 170,000 miles too high to be doin this tune and pipe set up? kinda in a hunch rn anything helps, thank you,
cameron

 

[busemans]

No, high miles doesn't mean your engine will blow up. And that kit is not forced induction so you will be good

 

[gweasel77]

Modding a '05 Titan w/ 170K I'd say you shouldn't have any worries...

As long as the truck has always been kept up to date with all the maintenance over the years.

I have 137K on my '05 and it still runs like it did 10yrs ago. I first got it Up/Rev Tuned back in January '08. After literally 100+ 1/4 mile passes at the drag strip and countless street encounters my Titan still performs just like it did back then. The performance never went away nor have I ever had any issue relating to any of my performance mods or Up/Rev Tune...

I would say, Let's GO!!!!

 

[gweasel77]

What codes are popping up?

Are you getting the P0420/P0430 (cat codes) or something else.

I would do away with those pesky stock manifolds and upgrade to a set of quality Long Tube Headers.

Also who are you planning on having install your new exhaust and setting up your Up/Rev Tune?

 

[seymore4]

I have personally tuned trucks with as much as 350K miles with no issues and in fact the owners commented they wished they did it sooner.

As long as your engine is mechanically sound and up to date on regular maintenance a proper uprev tune will only make it run better.

 

[Darkgenerals]

I have personally tuned trucks with as much as 350K miles with no issues and in fact the owners commented they wished they did it sooner.

As long as your engine is mechanically sound and up to date on regular maintenance a proper uprev tune will only make it run better.

Not to derail this thread but do you have any experience with hp tuners? Hp standard is far cheaper than full uprev but I’m afraid hp doesn’t have the same options as uprev in terms of turning codes off, and editing stuff.

 

[dubyam]

This has been discussed pretty much ad nauseum here on TitanTalk. HP tuners will cost you a minimum of $500 for a tune, and that's entirely dependent on the dyno tuber you visit and what he charges for his time. UpRev is $550, but with Seymore that runs you a significant level of tuning support and more than just a single tune at the end of the process. Math doesn't lie.

 

[Darkgenerals]

This has been discussed pretty much ad nauseum here on TitanTalk. HP tuners will cost you a minimum of $500 for a tune, and that's entirely dependent on the dyno tuber you visit and what he charges for his time. UpRev is $550, but with Seymore that runs you a significant level of tuning support and more than just a single tune at the end of the process. Math doesn't lie.

you misunderstand me, I plan to buy a full tuner and do it my self. I've wrenched and boosted my own cars in the past. I've also read over some of the uprev documentation, and everything looks straight forward.

The reason I asked an actual tuner was to get his prospective on the abilities of tuning software, not what he can and cant do for me.

 

[dubyam]

If you are one of the very few guys who can legitimately tune your truck properly, to run at the right fuel mixture and make good power, more power to you. HP will be cheaper for you. Most guys who say that (including the first guy to tune my brother's Chevy Colorado with HP) are wrong, but man, maybe you're the exception.

You're not the first to come her sporting that message, though. Good luck with your tuning..

 

[Darkgenerals]

If you are one of the very few guys who can legitimately tune your truck properly, to run at the right fuel mixture and make good power, more power to you. HP will be cheaper for you. Most guys who say that (including the first guy to tune my brother's Chevy Colorado with HP) are wrong, but man, maybe you're the exception.

You're not the first to come her sporting that message, though. Good luck with your tuning..

I just want to be able to turn codes on and off and play around in the settings of my ECU. Anything beyond small fuel changes, the truck would be going to a professional. Simiply asking the question of which software package is better for Nissan. Pretty sure its uprev, but info on HP for Nissan is very limited. The only benefit for HP it appears is the Pro package, and being able to add analog inputs.

 

[busemans]

if you are bored, you can do a megasquirt, also.

 

[Darkgenerals]

if you are bored, you can do a megasquirt, also.

eh, the idea of losing oem functionality isn’t appealing and piggy backs are for people who don’t have better options.

 

[busemans]

megasquirt isn't a piggy back. its a full replacement engine and fuel management system. you throw your stock ecu out and this replaces it

but its a ton of work if you want to do the right way of making the harness and if the stock sensors don't read, you have to swap over to the ones that do work with ms so sometimes you are tapping and modding to fit those sensors to the throttle body and different areas. and if you are not good on a computer, give it up. when i built one for my bmw, it ran great on the a simulator but when it came to actually running the car, no-go. but, this was back in the days of ms2 had just come out and no one in south texas had it on an e30. its probably easier now

 

[Darkgenerals]

megasquirt isn't a piggy back. its a full replacement engine and fuel management system. you throw your stock ecu out and this replaces it

but its a ton of work if you want to do the right way of making the harness and if the stock sensors don't read, you have to swap over to the ones that do work with ms so sometimes you are tapping and modding to fit those sensors to the throttle body and different areas. and if you are not good on a computer, give it up. when i built one for my bmw, it ran great on the a simulator but when it came to actually running the car, no-go. but, this was back in the days of ms2 had just come out and no one in south texas had it on an e30. its probably easier now

yea, megasquirt would kill oem functionality. Thats why I want to stick with factory ECU and just play with the parameters. Do you know the difference between HP and Uprev in terms of software and what things are accessible within the factory ECU?

 

[seymore4]

Uprev hands down. HP tuners came out with a big splash announcing Nissan support then pretty much just disappeared and stopped development.

Here's a little light reading for you:

Hp tuners for nissan!!!!! Vk56vd...

I just now found this out and have been struggling to find an UpRev tuner.... But, HP Tuners should open up a whole new world of capabilities with how modern they are and the COST. Check this out.... https://www.hptuners.com/product/mpvi2/

www.titantalk.com

 

[Darkgenerals]

Uprev hands down. HP tuners came out with a big splash announcing Nissan support then pretty much just disappeared and stopped development.

Here's a little light reading for you:

Hp tuners for nissan!!!!! Vk56vd...

I just now found this out and have been struggling to find an UpRev tuner.... But, HP Tuners should open up a whole new world of capabilities with how modern they are and the COST. Check this out.... https://www.hptuners.com/product/mpvi2/

www.titantalk.com

Jesus that thread is cancer. Bunch of old ladies arguing about cost and not the actual merits of one tuning package over the other. From what little is discussed in that thread, it would appear HP offers the same access to features as uprev, just less documentation specifically related to Titans.

 

[busemans]

i would go with uprev. megasquirt is a bunch of work. i was just saying its another option and its not a piggy back. to me, uprev is the best thing i have read about for these trucks

 

[sardaukar]

I got the Cajun Tuning kit for my truck at around 183k and it has run like a champ ever since. Very good customer support as well.

 

[gweasel77]

I remember reading a short article about the HP Tuners for the Nissan Titan when it first came out. I haven't seen or heard much about it since then though. I'd also like to know more about it's features and parameters just out of curiosity?

I think it's great that another company has tuning support for our platform, but are they going to back their product and what's custom service going to be like?

I'd love to have one of their rep's come on here and fill us all in on it! As much as it would be nice I doubt 1st Gen Nissan Titans are high on their priority list.

I'd personally go with Up/Rev their software is tried and true.

Seymore4 has been around for years and probably knows a thing or two about tuning these trucks.

 

[dubyam]

One of HP's reps was on that nightmare thread linked above. He and a couple of shills (or maybe just him masquerading) came on here making wild claims about how much better HP was than UpRev, how many more features it offered, and how it was cheaper. None of those claims has been brought to light as reality, and in fact, the feature set and cost claims were proven to be abjectly false.

At the end of the day, HP is not a bad company, in terms of technology. Some of their employees are questionable, as per the thread linked above, but the tech works. My brother's Chevy Colorado is HP tuned, and it runs like a top. Mind you, that's on the second tune. The first guy who tuned it with HP's software did a poor job, and caused the motor to run rich and the trans to shift funky. After having enough of that, my brother took his truck to a guy who is known to be an expert at tuning those truck's motors and transmissions, and had things fixed. Night and day difference, borne out at the gas pump, on off-road trails, and in stability. And that little inline 5cyl is well over 300k, and about to be replaced due to an oil consumption issue. Trans got replaced at about 290k, if I remember right. Point is, truck runs great and lasted a long time getting used like a truck, with a proper tune. Left with the poor tune, we'd probably have been doing a motor swap several years ago. Which speaks to my point in the prior thread and the one several folks are making here - get a tune from someone who knows these VK56 motors and the Titan platform. I don't have a dog in the fight as I am not tuned nor have I ever been in my Titan, nor do I care who you use, but I have enough experience tuning the old way (with a timing light, a box of jets, and plenty of "garage words" aimed at a Holley carb) to know I don't know enough about these systems right now to take on the job of tuning one.